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Forums - Gaming - VGC forums 'Great Debate' entries. Which is the best next console? PS4 orX1?

SWORDF1SH said:

I'm not sure about you but I like to see two knowledgeable forum members battle it out on any given topic. As most forums are open and free to opinion, this rarely happens as troll and fanboys can prevent this.

What I want to do is select a topic and two members come forward to debate about a topic. One member supporting one side while the other will support the opposite. The debate will take place on the thread and I will update what been said between the 2 on the main topic post at the start of the thread to make it easier for people to see the debate instead of it running over multiple pages and mixed in with other peoples thread posts. Of course other people can still comment within the thread with reactions to the debate in real time but it will only be the 2 people having the discussion that will get their posts updated in the original 1st post. e.g.

USER 1 : blah blah blah

USER 2 : blah blah blah blah

USER 1 : blah

This will continuously updated until its over. Once considered over, the thread will open a poll for people to vote on who was the winner.

People that put theirselves forward will have their comment history checked to make sure that that they are not a fanboy/troll to ensure a good debate.

If you're not sure what's going on, then let me know.

First topic is "Which is the best next console? PS4 orX1?". Put yourself forward here, 2 people will be selected and I will the create a new thread for the discussion to take place. Need 1 guy for pro X1 and one for pro PS4.

An intresting debate would be forcing them to argue for the console they don't support.

X1: Pro PS4

PS4: Pro X1

That way popular support is actually a handicap, and being biased weakens your argument. In a debate, its really the debaters and not the topic which are being tested.

A good enough debater can make you support something that you would typically hate.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

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vivster said:

A topic that only concerns each one of the debaters separately is not a valid debate topic. It's a debate without counter arguments, no chance to attack the opposition. Every point brought by each of the debaters will be irrefutable because each argument will only account to the person's preference.

The only thing this will be is 2 lists of product features with arbitrary points that each debater will put a different weight on.

Also, who will decide which one made the "better" points?


Every debate starts with to peoples preferences otherwise there wouldn't be a debate. I disagree on the counter arguments, there are many sub issues to explore, many reasons to prefer one consoles over the other and many opinions to lock horns with. I wanted to start with a big issue everybody is talking about to see if this concept would actually work and if there is interest, then with later debates on different issues start choosing deeper subjects.

Also the winner would be decided by poll which will be opened once the debate is over.

Vivster I understand why you think this is a bad subject to start off with but I think it's a great place to start. If this takes off we can explore deeper and more interesting topics but this subject is a test if this could work. If a big subject like this doesn't take off then it's doomed to fail anyway.



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
SWORDF1SH said:

I'm not sure about you but I like to see two knowledgeable forum members battle it out on any given topic. As most forums are open and free to opinion, this rarely happens as troll and fanboys can prevent this.

What I want to do is select a topic and two members come forward to debate about a topic. One member supporting one side while the other will support the opposite. The debate will take place on the thread and I will update what been said between the 2 on the main topic post at the start of the thread to make it easier for people to see the debate instead of it running over multiple pages and mixed in with other peoples thread posts. Of course other people can still comment within the thread with reactions to the debate in real time but it will only be the 2 people having the discussion that will get their posts updated in the original 1st post. e.g.

USER 1 : blah blah blah

USER 2 : blah blah blah blah

USER 1 : blah

This will continuously updated until its over. Once considered over, the thread will open a poll for people to vote on who was the winner.

People that put theirselves forward will have their comment history checked to make sure that that they are not a fanboy/troll to ensure a good debate.

If you're not sure what's going on, then let me know.

First topic is "Which is the best next console? PS4 orX1?". Put yourself forward here, 2 people will be selected and I will the create a new thread for the discussion to take place. Need 1 guy for pro X1 and one for pro PS4.

An intresting debate would be forcing them to argue for the console they don't support.

X1: Pro PS4

PS4: Pro X1

That way popular support is actually a handicap, and being biased weakens your argument. In a debate, its really the debaters and not the topic which are being tested.

A good enough debater can make you support something that you would typically hate.

hopefully we can get 2 really good debaters to battle it out. It would be an interesting read



SWORDF1SH said:

hopefully we can get 2 really good debaters to battle it out. It would be an interesting read

I would argue pro-X1 but I have school so I doubt I could spend enough time on the task.

Also to further the point about Devil's Advocate style debating:

Debates are structured so that arguments are supported by facts not based off of opinions. Opinions might drive a debaters intentions but such passion could cause the argument to breakdown and such isn't reliable.

Thats's why I recommend the opposite. Pro PS4 and Pro X1 arguing for opposite consoles. That way we filter out a lot of bias, preferences, and ancedotal evidience.

Lastly your first post in this new debate thread should be something like this:

http://www.pokemonbattlecreator.com/



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

I actually like the idea



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