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I can't see why would Sony invest on Western games for the Vita when every try they make never made huge success... Last year Killzone Mercenary and Tearaway even thought amazing games will costly reach 500k this year and if too much will reach 1,5m lifetime... The best selling game is Uncharted Golden Abyss and it suffered to sell 1.16m I hope it will at least sell 2 - 3 million lifetime...

With Assassins Creed Liberation and COD Desclassified struggling to sell 1m I can understand why Sony is not investing too much in the Western public, every game they try ends up failing to be a BIG HIT, and the best selling games sell like an average success game...

But anyway, I'll just keep on hoping J fans can manage to make it sell enough to keep it alive and allow SONY to bring us the next gen in portable gaming in about 2018 and hope it'll be better successful then my most loved handheld, the PS Vita



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But is it worth the time and money? Sony could throw billions of dollars at the Vita and they would certainly increase sales, yet each second they spend on vita they aren't spending on the PS4 and it is no safe bet that they would get that money back. Is it better to lose a little money on something that sells 20mil or lose a lot of money on something that sells 35mil?

I'm not endorsing Sony's treatment of the Vita...I do believe that they need to treat it better instead of delegating most of the big titles to B teams, however, just because we would be happier with the sales, doesn't mean Sony will be happier with their balance sheets.



Groundking said:
Re-design the vita so that micro-SD cards work with it (micro-sd cards are more than twice as cheap as sony's shit)
Have 4 and 8gb internal memory sku's
Get the play store on the device, whilst including a re-desined OS, the current one is fine, but it could be better.
Do some easy ports from the ps3 library (Puppeteer, GT6 but only the premium cars, and don't call it GT6, LBP Karting)
Set up a couple of studios that dedicate themselves to making portable titles
Cut the price to $150 and equivalent world wide.
Chuck some money at Rockstar for PSV GTA
Chuck some money at Square for a Kingdom Hearts game and Type-0 port
Chuck some money at Capcom for a couple of monster hunter games
Chuck some money at Activision and Ubisoft again for another COD and AC, both will become million sellers this year, can't imagine it would take much persuading to get both companies to create for the Vita again.
Get SCE Japan making a Ape Escape Vita, something I think would work well on the handheld, especially now that there's due analogue sticks
Create some limited bundles with the ps4 + ps3 (say Assassins creed 4+Liberations, PS4, PSV and a year of PS+ at $550)

Finaly the most important thing of all is some advertising, I mean FFS you had two first party games out this past year that did well critically and you didn't advertise them for shit, likewise with LBP Vita when that came out, it's now at nearly 700k thanks to fantastic legs due to good word of mouth. If it was given a good advertising campaign we'd perhaps see the Vita a couple hundred k further along and LBP Vita nearer 1million by now.

That's perfectly what the Vita needs! :D Also Dissidia game by Square Enix, SCEJ bring also Patapon and some real classic JRPG everybody wants like Legend Of Dragoon or Wild Arms exclusively for the Vita, Tomba! 3 could be a good try that wouldn't cost too much and bring back some nostalgic PS1 gamers...

Capcom could bring a Resident Evil to turn on Western gamers too, and Konami should build a Metal Gear for it!



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They can but it wouldn't be at all worth it. They'd have to take pretty big losses both financially and in development resources to pull it off, with the gain being a salvaged but likely still not very popular console in a rapidly shrinking market. Why bother? :/

Still, it's sad. The Vita was a great bit of tech.



The problems with the Vita are deep and fundamental. Aside from the issues that portable gaming has always had (public perception) basically Sony just doesn't have the first party muscle to shoulder the weight of a system like Nintendo does. Few third parties see portable gaming as anything more than a dumping ground for shitty kids games, and with the 3DS install base so much higher than the Vitas, both quality and non-quality games make more sense for the 3DS. Not to mention that Sony is basically apathetic to the handheld.

The Vita will be a niche console, where savvier developers will bring games. Big fish in a small pond kind of thing. It will be good for people who really love gaming, but it's not going to catch on with the mainstream in any real way.



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The problem is 3rd party don't want to make AAA game on it if Sony can resolve this problem i'm sure vita still had the chance to get a big revival



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

1.) Release the Vita 2000 with the same array of colors as in Japan at $150.
2.) Discontinue the 4 GB memory card.
3.) Bundle all Vitas with an 8 GB memory card.
4.) Reduce the prices of 8 GB, 16 GB, 32 GB, and 64 GB cards to $10, $20, $30, and $40, respectively.
5.) Get more games unique to the Vita published (obviously).



Aura7541 said:
1.) Release the Vita 2000 with the same array of colors as in Japan at $150.
2.) Discontinue the 4 GB memory card.
3.) Bundle all Vitas with an 8 GB memory card.
4.) Reduce the prices of 8 GB, 16 GB, 32 GB, and 64 GB cards to $10, $20, $30, and $40, respectively.
5.) Get more games unique to the Vita published (obviously).

I think this is the best proposition.. better than...

1. Lower the software price of new titles to $34.99 USD.

-It will not make any difference, people will not buy games that doesn't know exist at a little lower price. But SONY seems to be thinking on doing this.. Freedom Wars is gonna release at 30$ on Physical.

2. Build up the Vita's gaming library. 

-You should look to this thread: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=159298&page=1

Funfact, vita got released as much games as 3DS last year.. and this year seems to have a lot more.

3. Make an official PS4/Vita bundle SKU, and retail for $499 USD.

-Could help, but not enough by it self...

4. Make a digital-only Vita and retail it for less.

It isn't a bad idea, I go mostly digital and seems like a lot of vita owners too, but I still prefer to have the option to buy physical from time on time...

5. Localize more games.

arround 60% of vita release recently have been localization... that if we include indies as western release.. because retail games almost 90% (i could say) are japanese games localized, SONY, XSeed, NISA, Aksys, ATLUS, and now IdeaFactory, GungHo and Compile Heart have been working a lot to release games from Japan in the west... Vita until now have been a niche-japanese-likes-oriented handheld...

 

What Vita need rigth now is mass appeal with games oriented to western consumer.. shooters, dungen rpgs, even RTS could fit on the Vita... and better releases of popular franchises like Assasin creeds, COD, GOW, Gran Turismo, GTA, would help a lot...



 

DoYou Want DOZENS OF NO GAEMZ?! then... Visit the Official PlayStation Vita Tread

So much text in OP and no mention of standard sd-cards...
This has to be the hundredth thread about how anybody thinks he would know the answer to save the Vita...
I really appreciate the love people have for the stuff they buy but really, the Vita won't do any good ever really outside of Japan. Even with PS4 and remote play it didn't take off.



bananaking21 said:
SlayerRondo said:
bananaking21 said:
no it cant. vita has reached the point of no return. Sony have failed big time with the vita.

Its still selling better than the WiiU, do you consider it beyond the point of no return?


The Vita launched a year before the WiiU. if WiiU fails to generate momentum by the end of this year, then yes, in my personal humble genius opinion, it reached a point were it is fated for incredibaly low sales, or what i call now, Vita sales. 


The Vita has one advantage of the Wii U, it's far more powerful than it's current competition, whilst the Wii U is weaker than it's current competition. This  buys the Vita time in that they can still try and pimp the merits of the hardware. But personally I think Vita is what it is now and it's going to remain rather niche and obscure in the West, even if it blooms strongly in Japan over the next couple of years.

An exclusive Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid and GTA would shift some units, but in all reality, it's far beyond the point where they could get these games on the system so I'm just going to enjoy all the no gaemz it already has and roll my eyes in 10 years time at people saying how awesome it was and how they don't understand why it didn't sell better as I get to do now when hearing people talk about Dreamcast and the likes of Shenmue.



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