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Dgc1808 on 11 April 2014

I just think it's nice that we've got 3 very different 1st parties to choose from.



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wolfofthepack on 11 April 2014
NYCrysis said:

Im sorry it seems that none of you playstation fans like playing mp games with your friends? I just have bad communication skills that's obvious but the point im trying to make is that for playstation fans like myself, it's harder to find friends who have a playstation console because while most of my friends are off playing halo and gears on xbox or my nerdy friends are off playing pc games where does that leave a ps fan like myself? And I am an american in college guess where xbox reigns supreme due to what i'm talking about. Sony needs to have that big franchise that caters to these people so they get ps4's. I personally know way more people who are waiting on xb1 than ps4 due to halo and gears, and I can't persuade them elsewise because what does Sony have to compete?

And I do realize now that size doesn't matter. So forgive me with that.

 

Also btw I play a ton of more sp games than mp, a ton more!!!

agree this is me !!



wolfofthepack on 11 April 2014
exdeath said:
NYCrysis said:

Where is Sony's BIG Studio. And BIG Budget game. 

While Microsoft has had Gears and Halo with thriving mp communities and huge budgets and dev. 

The Last Of Us failed in mp 

No to all of the above.   

1) Big studios suck.  You end up with 10 devs and 9000 bureaucrats and investors in suits demanding unsustainable growth models and you get rehashed mainstream garbage like Call of Duty and Angry Birds and devs complaining they need more than 10 billion preorders to break even.

Oh and crap like “paying 99 cents to get Mario to jump just a little higher”

2) So... go play Gears of War and Halo and Call of Duty then if you love them so much.  Quit trying to turn everything else into these 3 games, these old tired macho chest beating nut sac grabbing dude bro jerk off fest  "zomg m0ar realiztic mad tyte nades and spolisions DUDE!!!" crap.  This is exactly why Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, and numerous other once top of the world beloved franchises completely suck now.

3) The Last of Us is a single player game.  Stop shoehorning stupid competitive online versus epeen mode to everything.  Not everything has to be multiplayer online dick wanking FFS.  If games like The Last of Us should have ANY online multiplayer at ALL it should be a co-op story mode where the second player replaces the AI.

 

All the things you seem to want are the very things destroying gaming.  Go back into your basement and play some COD or UFC or Madden bro and leave the rest of us out of it.

I'll keep supporting Namco, Atlus, Naughty Dog, etc.  You go right ahead and and get down with your bad EA/Activision/MS self if you want.  I'll have nothing to do with those devils who took my childhood hobby and gutted it for the mass market morons.

you sir get 3 thumbs up for this!!



Azzanation on 11 April 2014

I have to agree with the artical. Its the one reason why i stop buying Playstations after the 1st one. Sony games are just like 3rd party games to me, theres nothing really speacial about them other then them offerng another story to the library. I am a PC gamer and i did buy a 360 and a X1 however i only did so because of Halo and Gears. There games you will talk about for years and the community is so big on each game. Halo is one of my faverite franchises and it feels specials, it doesnt feel like just another shooter. Sony have alot of games however there franchises arent for everyone. Its the reason why PS Allstars failed because lets be honest, who really wants to play as Nathan Drake?

I just feel that Nintendo and Xbox franchises have more character to there heros and villians, there games become icons of gaming. Master Chief can appear in any game and get a crowd reaction same with Mario and Link, but you wouldnt react if you saw Sack Boy or the kid from Infamous... because the characters lack something thats really hard to pin point.

Sony need to start creating games that can offer simaler experinces to what Halo or a Mario game will offer. Becuase at the end of the day, while MS and Nintendo have the characters, Sony rely on 3rd party to offer those experinces but when you look at the bigger picture those games are most likely on Xbox aswell. So why would a gamer consider buying a PS4 for Destiny when X1 has Destiny and the next Halo? both expected to have a huge fan base and community.



EB1994 on 11 April 2014
Azzanation said:

I have to agree with the artical. Its the one reason why i stop buying Playstations after the 1st one. Sony games are just like 3rd party games to me, theres nothing really speacial about them other then them offerng another story to the library. I am a PC gamer and i did buy a 360 and a X1 however i only did so because of Halo and Gears. There games you will talk about for years and the community is so big on each game. Halo is one of my faverite franchises and it feels specials, it doesnt feel like just another shooter. Sony have alot of games however there franchises arent for everyone. Its the reason why PS Allstars failed because lets be honest, who really wants to play as Nathan Drake?

I just feel that Nintendo and Xbox franchises have more character to there heros and villians, there games become icons of gaming. Master Chief can appear in any game and get a crowd reaction same with Mario and Link, but you wouldnt react if you saw Sack Boy or the kid from Infamous... because the characters lack something thats really hard to pin point.

Sony need to start creating games that can offer simaler experinces to what Halo or a Mario game will offer. Becuase at the end of the day, while MS and Nintendo have the characters, Sony rely on 3rd party to offer those experinces but when you look at the bigger picture those games are most likely on Xbox aswell. So why would a gamer consider buying a PS4 for Destiny when X1 has Destiny and the next Halo? both expected to have a huge fan base and community.

Do you have any proof of this? Or just guessing?



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Azzanation on 11 April 2014
GameAnalyser said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Goatseye said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Dude...Sony is fine and the big games always come within a two year window. I would be more worried about Microsoft if I were you when it comes to being creative and coming out with new exclusives themselves.

I'd rather take creativity of MS than Sony.

And here I'll tell you why:

Halo has been the benchmark for most FPS since 2001, it always had great visuals but it's gameplay took precedence over anything else. Thus, it's multiplayer is one of the most played in the industry.

Gears have also been the benchmark for all the TPS with cover based mechanic. Self explanatory.

MS released tons of Arcade games for the last 3 years through 1st party and external studios partnership.

I don't think any fans of Xbox should be worried about games on Xbox, be it 1st or 3rd party.

I'm not easily impressed by cinematic experience. It's a wow thing for 5 minutes.

MS has created zero games that have become a phenomenon. I have no clue what creativity you speak of. Yes, I agree that they are better at Sony at acquring IP's. 

I love Gears and Halo, but MS didn't create those games, they just own the IP to them. Every game MS has that I remotely like they've purchased. Gears, Halo and Rare titles. Everything I like about Sony they've made including partner games.

This.

Sorry to bust your bubble but Sony dont make games either, they own companies that make there games just like MS and Nintendo. Only games that Sony make are from SOE and most of them are sub par PC games. Nintendo are the only ones that make there big games from there head office in Japan like Mario and Zelda. MS find it cheaper to hire a 3rd party company to make there games then actrually own the company to make them. Seems logical.

The most importent part is if they own the IPs which MS own all there IPs just like Sony and Nintendo.



Azzanation on 11 April 2014
EB1994 said:
Azzanation said:

I have to agree with the artical. Its the one reason why i stop buying Playstations after the 1st one. Sony games are just like 3rd party games to me, theres nothing really speacial about them other then them offerng another story to the library. I am a PC gamer and i did buy a 360 and a X1 however i only did so because of Halo and Gears. There games you will talk about for years and the community is so big on each game. Halo is one of my faverite franchises and it feels specials, it doesnt feel like just another shooter. Sony have alot of games however there franchises arent for everyone. Its the reason why PS Allstars failed because lets be honest, who really wants to play as Nathan Drake?

I just feel that Nintendo and Xbox franchises have more character to there heros and villians, there games become icons of gaming. Master Chief can appear in any game and get a crowd reaction same with Mario and Link, but you wouldnt react if you saw Sack Boy or the kid from Infamous... because the characters lack something thats really hard to pin point.

Sony need to start creating games that can offer simaler experinces to what Halo or a Mario game will offer. Becuase at the end of the day, while MS and Nintendo have the characters, Sony rely on 3rd party to offer those experinces but when you look at the bigger picture those games are most likely on Xbox aswell. So why would a gamer consider buying a PS4 for Destiny when X1 has Destiny and the next Halo? both expected to have a huge fan base and community.

Do you have any proof of this? Or just guessing?

Do i need proof? Its pretty obvious that his a cult hero among gamers. Everyone knows who he is.



EB1994 on 11 April 2014
Azzanation said:
EB1994 said:
Azzanation said:

I have to agree with the artical. Its the one reason why i stop buying Playstations after the 1st one. Sony games are just like 3rd party games to me, theres nothing really speacial about them other then them offerng another story to the library. I am a PC gamer and i did buy a 360 and a X1 however i only did so because of Halo and Gears. There games you will talk about for years and the community is so big on each game. Halo is one of my faverite franchises and it feels specials, it doesnt feel like just another shooter. Sony have alot of games however there franchises arent for everyone. Its the reason why PS Allstars failed because lets be honest, who really wants to play as Nathan Drake?

I just feel that Nintendo and Xbox franchises have more character to there heros and villians, there games become icons of gaming. Master Chief can appear in any game and get a crowd reaction same with Mario and Link, but you wouldnt react if you saw Sack Boy or the kid from Infamous... because the characters lack something thats really hard to pin point.

Sony need to start creating games that can offer simaler experinces to what Halo or a Mario game will offer. Becuase at the end of the day, while MS and Nintendo have the characters, Sony rely on 3rd party to offer those experinces but when you look at the bigger picture those games are most likely on Xbox aswell. So why would a gamer consider buying a PS4 for Destiny when X1 has Destiny and the next Halo? both expected to have a huge fan base and community.

Do you have any proof of this? Or just guessing?

Do i need proof? Its pretty obvious that his a cult hero among gamers. Everyone knows who he is.

Cult hero among gamers?

That's all I needed to know about you, thanks.



Wright on 11 April 2014
EB1994 said:
Azzanation said:

Do i need proof? Its pretty obvious that his a cult hero among gamers. Everyone knows who he is.

Cult hero among gamers?

That's all I needed to know about you, thanks.


Isn't he, though? I dislike Halo, but Master Chief is pretty much the gaming icon of Microsoft and have won its own hall of fame throughout the years. You can go to any convention and if you see someone cosplaying as Master Chief, everyone is taking photos of him.



TheBlackNaruto on 11 April 2014

I guess I am indifferent. Because I love some of the MP 1st party games Sony has. KZ:SF has AMAZING MP as did KZ2 and I will take either of those over any Halo MP any day. I loved the MP in Gears 1 and Horde Mode in Gears 2. But the MP was a step down in gears 2 and also in Gears 3 in my opinion. It didn't have the magic that Gears 1 had.

Also I don't get why they need a BIG MP game/studio? They already have God Of war, Uncharted, TLOU(If they continue it as a series), AND Gran Turismo. Not to mention KZ:SF may be the best selling game in the series just as Infamous: SS might be the best in the series as well. Those games compete with the best of MS and NIN. And the people who game on Sony consoles seem to be happy with those games and also many others. They have 3rd party games to cover the FPS MP for everyone else so they do not NEED a BIG MP because the market is already saturated with them and they sell just fine being 3rd party multi plats.

I like their focus on the games that they are making. Why do they need to be like everyone else? What then would be the point of owning multiple consoles? Seeing as everyone would be doing the same thing? MS/Sony/NIN all have their own ways of doing things as far as games go and they do it in their own unique ways. They all have some great games that are different/not on the competitors consoles so they are fine. This article is making something out of nothing if you ask me.



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