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gentii said:

If the Wii U had an 8-core PowerPC CPU and 8GB of RAM along with the 32MB of eDRAM it has it would absolutely rip the PS4 and XB1 to shreds.

 


Funny how you don't talk about the GPU at all.

 

Serious question: Is this a joke thread?



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Ugh. No.

The WiiU is a great console for the Nintendo franchise games. It has a weak CPU and a decent enough GPU.

However, it is not as fast as the XB1 let alone the PS4.

The figures on the PS4/XB1 are quite ludicrously wrong as well.

Truthfacts :

The XB1 has a DDR3-shared memory system feeding a Jaguar 8-Core CPU with a roughly 7790-level GPU.

The PS4 has a GDDR5-shared memory system feeding a Jaguar 8-Core CPU with a roughly 7850-7870-level GPU.

Because DDR3 is so slow for graphics work (look up Radeon 6670 DDR3 vs. GDDR5 variants for example), the XB1's GPU is more accurately equal to something in the range of a 7750 even after considering the best-case scenario for the on-die added memory.

The WiiU's hardware is fine for most things, and exceptional for Mario/Zelda/Kart/Smash/etc. It's also well suited for a SoC revision down the line to really cut costs. But it is not even close to PS4 levels, and still below XB1 levels of raw power.

All that said, SM3DW is the best next-gen game to date easily, and the U has a bright future ahead for what it is. It's always needed the complete lineup of 1st party exclusives, and once they're all accounted for, lots of people will love having it as a 2nd console (makes more sense to go PS4 + U or XB1 + U than it does to go XB1 + PS4 considering 90% of PS4/XB1 games will be multiplat).

And the Nintendo die-hards only need 1 or 2 or 3 of those great 1st party exclusives to jump in.

Don't try to make it what it's not, it's just silly, needless, and does an injustice to what Nintendo has and can accomplish with their resources, and for their fans. Their biggest mistake imho was the tablet thing, but look at 3DS, it's the poster child for 'doooom' that turned out fine once the games started flowing.

A $249 or $199 WiiU + SSB/Kart/Zelda/Metroid/yadda will sell hand over fist as the extra console du jour. Especially if PS4/XB1 are going to be chock full of pretty, but not exceptionally memorable games. Both Titanfall and ISS are good games, but both will be basically forgotten as soon as the next AAA hype releases drop by.



Uabit said:
walsufnir said:
Uabit said:
The real power of the Wii U is a little more than the power of an Xbox 360 (maybe 30 - 40%).

It has 2gb of ram that is 4 times what the 360 has but 1gb is reserved for the OS so it's only 1gb ram for games. And the processor is a powerful version of the Wii's one (wich means X360's processor is much more powerful because Wii's processor was crap and so is the Wii U's one).

And the GPU is just a little more powerful than X360's one.

Sry for my english xd


Do you have any facts for your statements? I don't see any, only repition of the general opinion on gaming forums. Looking at Mario Kart I can tell you that neither PS3 nor x360 would be able to run this game at 60fps, I doubt they could in 30. This game really showed to me the potential of WiiU if it used correctly.

It is only a car racing game with cartoonish style. PS3 can move The last of us at 720p 30fps. and it looks awesome from general graphics to  Joel/Ellie animations. If ps3 had 30 - 40 % more power it would be able to run mario kart at 720p 60fps too don't even doubt it. 



I agree with you, PS3 did great with Last of US, beyond and God of war ascension last year with optimizations just like Mario kart has for Wii U. However, Mario kart is a racing game with cartoon vistuals which looking so good because of the art and design mostly not due to technical power of Wii U but not complex world like Open world and action/adventure games.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

clutching at its finest also completely wrong



"If the Wii U had an 8-core PowerPC CPU and 8GB of RAM along with the 32MB of eDRAM it has it would absolutely rip the PS4 and XB1 to shreds."

So in order for the WiiU to be more powerful than the PS4 and X1, it needs to not be the WiiU? :P



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walsufnir said:

I am quite sure I read this wrong text before but don't remember who posted it...

 

Edit: It is actually quite old: http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/must-read-wii-u-the-secret-developers.453688639/page-3#post-486965361

 

And it was here, too, but thanks to the great search function here I can't find it -.-

When I want to find something here, I just add Gamrconnect to the phrase and Google it.

:P



cheshirescat said:
Oh, it's this thread again. Wonder how long it will last.





Uabit said:
walsufnir said:
Uabit said:
The real power of the Wii U is a little more than the power of an Xbox 360 (maybe 30 - 40%).

It has 2gb of ram that is 4 times what the 360 has but 1gb is reserved for the OS so it's only 1gb ram for games. And the processor is a powerful version of the Wii's one (wich means X360's processor is much more powerful because Wii's processor was crap and so is the Wii U's one).

And the GPU is just a little more powerful than X360's one.

Sry for my english xd


Do you have any facts for your statements? I don't see any, only repition of the general opinion on gaming forums. Looking at Mario Kart I can tell you that neither PS3 nor x360 would be able to run this game at 60fps, I doubt they could in 30. This game really showed to me the potential of WiiU if it used correctly.

It is only a car racing game with cartoonish style. PS3 can move The last of us at 720p 30fps. and it looks awesome from general graphics to  Joel/Ellie animations. If ps3 had 30 - 40 % more power it would be able to run mario kart at 720p 60fps too don't even doubt it. 




Technically it is absolutey brilliant, no matter how you try to disagree. And you are agreeing with me, PS3 is not able to render the game this way, it would need more power -> WiiU is more powerful and 30% - 40% is not a little more, of course.



Shaunaka said:
gentii said:

If the Wii U had an 8-core PowerPC CPU and 8GB of RAM along with the 32MB of eDRAM it has it would absolutely rip the PS4 and XB1 to shreds.

 


Funny how you don't talk about the GPU at all.

 

Serious question: Is this a joke thread?

I don't think anyone would put so much "effort" into a joke thread!



                
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the_dengle said:
walsufnir said:

I am quite sure I read this wrong text before but don't remember who posted it...

 

Edit: It is actually quite old: http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/must-read-wii-u-the-secret-developers.453688639/page-3#post-486965361

 

And it was here, too, but thanks to the great search function here I can't find it -.-

When I want to find something here, I just add Gamrconnect to the phrase and Google it.

:P


I tried this, of course ;)

Even better, use "site:gamrconnect.vgchartz.com"

 

But finally I found this post: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5948414

But I am damn sure the was a whole thread about it.