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d21lewis said:
BeElite said:
d21lewis said:

But seriously, the Xbox One is an awesome console and does a lot of things right. When more people see what it can do, more people will want one. Not on PS4 levels but it should do well.

Issue is it does nothing great and does very little just right.  No one actually knows what it is first its a always online something ohh crap media public hate us flip flop now its a basic media box / 2nd game console ohh shit the gamer console is kicking our ass now we say its a core gamer console.  MS does not know wtf they are doing with it, they are flipflopping to fit what they think will sale and are failing as they lack one single vision to push.

 

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Mummelmann

I try to be "middle of the road" but when I see posts like this, I have to speak up. The fact of the matter is, in my house, the Xbox One is used daily and my PS4 is virtually untouched.  Maybe it's doing "nothing great" but for my money, it delivers.  I'm still waiting for my PS4 to wow me (sorry, Second Son ain't tickling my vagina...).  For me, the PS4 didn't live up to the hype while the Xbox One has me staying up 'til 4am playing it.

Try it and maybe you'll agree.  Maybe you won't.  At least you'll be speaking from experience.


Thats cool and good for you, but i dont fire up my X1 for weeks.  But mine or your hours of play time on 4 or X means nothing to the reality of the market situation.  X1 has to many disadvantages, and sales are showing exactly that. 

 



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XBoxOne could reach second place in 8th generation console sales wars by end of fiscal year 2014/15, ie by March 31, 2015. XBoxOne realistically has no chance of outselling the PS4 this generation but the XBoxOne can be profitable and it can look forward to selling close to 60+ million consoles this generation.



Dark_Lord_2008 said:
XBoxOne could reach second place in 8th generation console sales wars by end of fiscal year 2014/15, ie by March 31, 2015. XBoxOne realistically has no chance of outselling the PS4 this generation but the XBoxOne can be profitable and it can look forward to selling close to 60+ million consoles this generation.

I agree, but with some key summer releases, it could surpass the WII U as early as Fall. Then again Smash and Kart 8 should sell a combined amount of a million consoles at release, and thats being generous.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

More than ever for Microsoft, but considering 360 had the multiplat advantage last gen, the only way for sony to fight back in games was with exclusives. MS is only catching up because they need to, they don't have the multiplats anymore, and Sony still has more studios.

Thus, XB1 is in a much worse scenario then previous platforms, the only exception I would state would probably be the Xbox because it came in late to the gen.

Not to mention the fact, that 3rd parties going to microsoft exclusively is making little sense any more. EA and Respawn thought Xbox was going to win, EA sure as hell doesn't give a damn about moving XB1s versus selling copies, and I can bet that bundling TF cost MS a lot more than just exclusivity and EA lost a crap load of money.

Lets be generous and say that ~ 500k TF (XB1) where bundled.@60 retail thats 3,000,000 right there, lets say 1.5 mil to secure exclusivity, which is chump change btw, thats 4.5 mil vs the 3mill EA wouldve made on 500k retail total sales currently. These numbers are obviously false, but its for examples sake. Even if the ps4 only did 450k and the ps3 did 50 k, 500k total on a userbase of about 90 million give or take, thats still 3 milion more

which is 6 mil on titanfall total.

Fact is EA lost money on this deal, they would be stupid to make it again. If other 3rd parties see this, I doubt they will even think of XB1 exclusivity if not staying multiplat.

The point of all of this is simple.

The XB1 is facing a situation roughly thrice as bad as the PS3. What they are doing right now, thats not enough not by a long shot. They should have games planned for 2017-2018, hell their parity clause is worsening the problem as it limits what is going to fill the huge holes between exclusives. 

In all honesty, the XB1 is looking like the Wii U.


Nice numbers you got there, Can any of it be fact checked, Oh that's right. You just wrote it down as you thought of it. It's only been a few weeks. The game is doing just fine.



BeElite said:


Thats cool and good for you, but i dont fire up my X1 for weeks.  But mine or your hours of play time on 4 or X means nothing to the reality of the market situation.  X1 has to many disadvantages, and sales are showing exactly that. 

 


Yea it cost a 100 more, thats about it. Once it hits $399, we will see.



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Dark_Lord_2008 said:
XBoxOne could reach second place in 8th generation console sales wars by end of fiscal year 2014/15, ie by March 31, 2015. XBoxOne realistically has no chance of outselling the PS4 this generation but the XBoxOne can be profitable and it can look forward to selling close to 60+ million consoles this generation.


Anything can change and shape the landscape. Love these posts that state the next 5-10 years off of 5 months of sales. It's way to early and many things can be a game changer.



DJEVOLVE said:


Yea it cost a 100 more, thats about it. Once it hits $399, we will see.


A console and new game at 450 already is pretty much that, and last week Ps4 doubled X1 sales.

For X1 to out sale PS4 it needs to cost 299, since it lack all the advantages 360 had over PS3 a mere price match or even 50 less wont be enough to take a sales lead world wide.  Ill give you that a $350 Halo 5 bunlde woudl light up the PS4 for a bit, but thats only if there is no Uncharted or GT in the same time frame. 



I'm no Sony fanboy but boy does it feel good to be on the opposite side of these threads! Lol



BeElite said:


Thats cool and good for you, but i dont fire up my X1 for weeks.  But mine or your hours of play time on 4 or X means nothing to the reality of the market situation.  X1 has to many disadvantages, and sales are showing exactly that. 

 


Add me on PS4 and Xbox One.  We'll play tonight.  Give us both a good reason to fire them up.  And you better be elite!



d21lewis said:


Add me on PS4 and Xbox One.  We'll play tonight.  Give us both a good reason to fire them up.  And you better be elite!

Shhh. He doesnt really have a One. SHhhh.