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TheBlackNaruto on 28 March 2014
QuintonMcLeod said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
true_fan said:
Lol have fun with those ps4 fans, I didn't pay all this money to play old pc ported indie games. It's funny you all can't realize sony wants so many indie devs is because they require a smaller budget.

So what did you pay all of that money to play? I mean Infamous: SS, The Order 1886, Driveclub, Watchdogs, Destiny, MLB: The Show 14 etc...are not old pc ported indie games. They may not be your PERSONAL cup of tea but they are not "old pc ported indie games". Your post always make no sense to me like you just WANT a reason to say something negative about the PS4....what was the point of even posting?...smh


The Order 1886 and Driveclub aren't out yet. We don't know how good those games will be. Watchdogs, Destiny and MLB: The Show 14 are all multiplats. You wouldn't buy a system because of its multiplats. Rather, you'd buy one for its exclusives. So, I suppose the question really is... What reason is there to purchase a PS4? I mean, the Xbox One has more exclusives than the PS4. Sure, the PS4 is cheaper than the Xbox One, but so is a $250 dollar graphics card for my PC that can run every mutliplat coming out for those two systems anyway. You've got Infamous: SS (which really only scored an 81 on Metacritic - which isn't bad, but isn't terrific either). You have Killzone which isn't really all that good. You've got Knack... Maybe Resogun? Flower maybe? One being a very bad game and the other two being indie titles. I mean, what major title does the PS4 have right now? What makes it a must buy over the other consoles outside of the fact that it's cheaper than the Xbox One? Please educate me on this.

The order 1886 and Driveclub I named because the article wa about games that are planned for release this year. His statement was made in regards to he didn't spend all that money to play indies which should not be an issue for him seeing as he DOES NOT have a PS4 so the post made no sense in that regard.

You say the XB1 has more exclusives when in fact it does not...it has more retail exclusives released but it currently does not have more exclusives overall when including downloadable titles. When you take into account ALL the games both systems have to offer they are basically dead even. So neither technically has an advantage over the other in that regard. So guess what it comes down to...PERSONAL prefference...then your PC comment not EVERY Multiplat is coming to the PC why because those games do not sell as well on PC as they do consoles. Also MAYBE people just prefer consoles over PCs so they don't need to get a $250 graphics card...even though you would need more than just that to run all the games and the cost would end up being more than that of a PS4 or XB1. But that is fine for those who PREFER to play on PC...now on to reasons for someone to get a PS4...

Infamous: SS which is an AMAZING game for people who love those types of games and who are fans of the Infamous series and play style. That is one reason for those who PREFER that game to get a PS4. You have KZ:SF while the SP is lacking the MP comes close to the greatness that it was in KZ2 which is considered the best MP in the series so that is another reason for someone who enjoys the KZ games and KZ universe to get a PS4. Then you have Knack which indeed did not do or score very well and I actually agree is not a very good game at all BUT others have played it and TRULY enjoyed Knack. Therefore giving them yet ANOTHER reason to get a PS4. Resogun easily the BEST launch game between the PS4 and the XB1(metacritic wise anyway) is yet another reason for someone to go out and get a PS4. I could kepp going but those should do for now. Those games may not be your cup of tea or others but they are and were reason enough for people to purchase a PS4.

Point being you are talking as if the PS4 has nothing to offer over the competition when indeed you are wrong it offers games that people may actually prefer playing that can't be found on the hardware of the competition. Does that mean the competition has nothing to offer no of ocurse not. They have games that others prefer HENCE the reason that they went with their console of choice. People like and prefer different things so that what makes console A a MUST BUY over console B or C...hope that helps...peace



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Goatseye on 28 March 2014
bananaking21 said:
Goatseye said:

Quality vs Quantity. I'll wait and see before bragging.


we have been waiting for 5 months now, while quality indie game after quality indie game have been releasing on PlayStation. keep waiting though, seems like the only thing you can do anyways. 

Nah, I wait and play at the same time. Taking a bit of break from Titanfall.



bananaking21 on 28 March 2014
QuintonMcLeod said:
Xenostar said:
Wow this topic got derailed, there is a good reason big AAA titles are TBA, its because there for the holiday release window, and with the amount of marketing and strategy that goes into releasing these games, you dont tell your competitors your exact dates in such a heavily competitive time of year.

By this logic there's no games coming out on X1 this year either, i don't see exact dates for Halo, Sunset overdrive or quantum break. MS must be liars they lied to us about the cloud no games confirmed.

Idiots.


I don't believe this to be the case. Even Destiny has a hazy "holiday" release. There's really no reason to "fool" your competition by saying your title is a TBA release. I'd say you're reaching with this one.


http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/07/destiny-release-date-announced



ethomaz on 28 March 2014
iceland said:
ethomaz said:
Minecraft, The Order and Planetside are confirmed to 2014... TBA 2014.

Stop the bullshiting... The Order is made by a third-party studio called Read at Dawn... not Santa Monica.

I thought they were working together?

For publishing and technical help with PS4 but Ready at Dawn is the only developing it... no interference from Santa Monica... it is they first AAA game and the biggest too... I'm happy they finally reach this level after so many quality HD ports.

They created their own engine for this game too... the first game engine created by this studio too... they aren't using the Santa Monica's engine.



biglittlesps on 28 March 2014
QuintonMcLeod said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
true_fan said:
Lol have fun with those ps4 fans, I didn't pay all this money to play old pc ported indie games. It's funny you all can't realize sony wants so many indie devs is because they require a smaller budget.

So what did you pay all of that money to play? I mean Infamous: SS, The Order 1886, Driveclub, Watchdogs, Destiny, MLB: The Show 14 etc...are not old pc ported indie games. They may not be your PERSONAL cup of tea but they are not "old pc ported indie games". Your post always make no sense to me like you just WANT a reason to say something negative about the PS4....what was the point of even posting?...smh


The Order 1886 and Driveclub aren't out yet. We don't know how good those games will be. Watchdogs, Destiny and MLB: The Show 14 are all multiplats. You wouldn't buy a system because of its multiplats. Rather, you'd buy one for its exclusives. So, I suppose the question really is... What reason is there to purchase a PS4? I mean, the Xbox One has more exclusives than the PS4. Sure, the PS4 is cheaper than the Xbox One, but so is a $250 dollar graphics card for my PC that can run every mutliplat coming out for those two systems anyway. You've got Infamous: SS (which really only scored an 81 on Metacritic - which isn't bad, but isn't terrific either). You have Killzone which isn't really all that good. You've got Knack... Maybe Resogun? Flower maybe? One being a very bad game and the other two being indie titles. I mean, what major title does the PS4 have right now? What makes it a must buy over the other consoles outside of the fact that it's cheaper than the Xbox One? Please educate me on this.

For you PS4 is not meant as you can play your multiplatforms and no PS exclusive interests you so just go with your PC and xbox one exclusives(Ryse 60+ meta, Dead rising and forza are average game as there is nothing really we expect from new gen in gameplay/visuals compared to last gen to think its a must game and F2P fighting game with small roster, multiplatform Titanfall and with inferior multiplatform games) and high price which is not attracting many compared to PS4 with a gap of 2+ million.

PS4 is a gaming machine meant to be affordable and hassle free gaming for many people around the world not only for those who are good with computers who can build their best multiplatform machine. Many people around the world agree that PS4 is best for gaming that is why its having more sales and they trust sony. And, still consoles do more sales compared to PC when a new multiplatform game is released. May i know why? 



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its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

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TheBlackNaruto on 28 March 2014
Goatseye said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
 

While I understand your statment his statement was also correct. They already have many quality titles and are also increasing in quantity. Will have of them be high quality of course not but they already have quite a few quality games. So your quality vs quantity statement seemed kind of out of place. Though I agree on the wait and see before bragging part.

Also he never suggested that MS arcade titles were bad he was just point out some of the QUALITY ones that are already out since you brought it up...no big deal though seeing as both systems will have some very nice quality games.

You're right he never suggested that and I didn't say he did.

My affirmation (guess I should've added the exclamation points) was to keep in mind that quality is better than quantity.

Oh well that is cool. It just came off that way when you said it. That is my bad...and I agree quality is better than quantity and I guess I was just saying that they have both right now so it really wasn't a big deal. But your point is indeed correct good sir!



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ice on 28 March 2014
ethomaz said:
iceland said:

I thought they were working together?

For publishing and technical help with PS4 but Ready at Dawn is the only developing it... no interference from Santa Monica... it is they first AAA game and the biggest too... I'm happy they finally reach this level after so many quality HD ports.

They created their own engine for this game too... the first game engine created by this studio too... they aren't using the Santa Monica's engine.

Thanks for the info, I was kind of lead to believe by someone that they had more of a role in making the game. No need for all those ellipsis :)

I'm excited to see how The Order turns out.



Goatseye on 28 March 2014
TheBlackNaruto said:
Goatseye said:

You're right he never suggested that and I didn't say he did.

My affirmation (guess I should've added the exclamation points) was to keep in mind that quality is better than quantity.

Oh well that is cool. It just came off that way when you said it. That is my bad...and I agree quality is better than quantity and I guess I was just saying that they have both right now so it really wasn't a big deal. But your point is indeed correct good sir!

It's all good my ninja!!



QuintonMcLeod on 28 March 2014
TheBlackNaruto said:
QuintonMcLeod said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
true_fan said:
Lol have fun with those ps4 fans, I didn't pay all this money to play old pc ported indie games. It's funny you all can't realize sony wants so many indie devs is because they require a smaller budget.

So what did you pay all of that money to play? I mean Infamous: SS, The Order 1886, Driveclub, Watchdogs, Destiny, MLB: The Show 14 etc...are not old pc ported indie games. They may not be your PERSONAL cup of tea but they are not "old pc ported indie games". Your post always make no sense to me like you just WANT a reason to say something negative about the PS4....what was the point of even posting?...smh


The Order 1886 and Driveclub aren't out yet. We don't know how good those games will be. Watchdogs, Destiny and MLB: The Show 14 are all multiplats. You wouldn't buy a system because of its multiplats. Rather, you'd buy one for its exclusives. So, I suppose the question really is... What reason is there to purchase a PS4? I mean, the Xbox One has more exclusives than the PS4. Sure, the PS4 is cheaper than the Xbox One, but so is a $250 dollar graphics card for my PC that can run every mutliplat coming out for those two systems anyway. You've got Infamous: SS (which really only scored an 81 on Metacritic - which isn't bad, but isn't terrific either). You have Killzone which isn't really all that good. You've got Knack... Maybe Resogun? Flower maybe? One being a very bad game and the other two being indie titles. I mean, what major title does the PS4 have right now? What makes it a must buy over the other consoles outside of the fact that it's cheaper than the Xbox One? Please educate me on this.

The order 1886 and Driveclub I named because the article wa about games that are planned for release this year. His statement was made in regards to he didn't spend all that money to play indies which should not be an issue for him seeing as he DOES NOT have a PS4 so the post made no sense in that regard.

You say the XBO1has more exclusives when in fact it does not...it has more retail exclusives released but it currently does not have more exclusives overall when including downloadable titles. WHen you take into account ALL the games both systems have to offer they are basically dead even. So neither tecnically has an advantage over the other in that regard. So guess what it comes down to...PERSONAL prefference...then your PC comment not EVERY Multiplat is coming to the PC why because those games do not sell as well on PC as they do consoles. Also MAYBE people just prefer consoles over PCs so they don't need to get a $250 graphics card...even though you would need more than just that to run all the games and the cose would end up being more than that of a PS4 or XB1. But that is fine for those who PREFER to play on PC...now on to reasons for someone to get a PS4...

Infamous: SS which is an AMAZING game for people who love those types of games and who are fans of the Infamous series and play style. That is one reason for those who PREFER that game to get a PS4. You have KZ:SF while the SP is lacking the MP comes close to teh greatness that it was in KZ2 which is considered the best MP in the series so that is another reasonf or someone who enjoys the KZ games and KZ universer to get a PS4. Then you have knack which indeed didnot do or score very well and I actually agree is not a very good game at all BUT others have played it and TRULY enjoyed Knack. Therefore giving then yet ANOTHER reason to get a PS4. Resogun easily the BEST launch game between the PS4 and the XB1(metacritic wise anyway) is yet another reason for someone to go out and get a PS4. I could kepp going but those should do for now. Those games may not be your cup of tea or others but they are and were reason enough for people to purchase a PS4.

Point being you are talking as if the PS4 has nothing to offer over the competition when indeed you are wrong it offers games that people may actually prefer playing that can't be found on the hardward of the competition. Does that mean the competition has nothing to offer no of ocurse not. They have games that other prefer HENCE the reason that went with their console of choice. People like and prefer different things so that what makes console A a MUST BUY over console B or C...hope that helps...peace


Look. A lot of what you said boils down to your personal opinion. However, facts are facts. The PS4 doesn't have a major title to make it any different than competing consoles. If you're going to include indie titles, then we might as well include the Wii U which has the most indie titles right now. In regards to exclusive retail titles, the Xbox One has the most between itself and the PS4. These are facts. Using these facts, how is the PS4 more worthy than the competition? If I bought a Wii U and a graphics card for my PC, I'd have a console with more exclusives than both the PS4 and the Xbone combined and a superior system for multiplats. If I bought an Xbox One and a Wii U, I'd spend more money, but I'd have way more exclusive content than I would buying a PS4 and a Wii U. So, what I'm trying to find out here is why buy a PS4?



ethomaz on 28 March 2014

Guys... just leave he posted he knows nothing about what he is talking.