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To the original poster, I thought that was a really well thought out, laid out, article, that articulates MS strategy to a "T". Hopefully with Sony starting so strong this generation, MS will not enjoy a commanding lead again, and people will go back to buying a quality gaming station, built by gaming enthusiast, for gaming enthusiast!



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sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
 

This in regards to MS demanding timed exclusivity and/or release parity with PSN? Because I can tell you first hand that it benefits the XBox gamer. We don't have to wait while someone else gets to play or we enjoy a 1st class experience with getting it first. If there was any place that MS truly cared for their gamers, it was the indie scene with 360.


They are hypocrites. The way they play is pretty damn dirty and a very bad example to set for the industry in how to deal with your competition. They tell developers to give them parity for games and then strip parity away from others because they are afraid it will make their console seem equal. That is called fear.

Fear? lol that is business. And I stand by my claim. Getting timed exclusivity for indie games like Castle Crashers, Braid, Limbo, Minecraft, etc. It benefitted Xbox gamers with a 1st class treatment and MS reaped the revenue. PS3 got the scraps.


Correct yourself....modern American business. Anti-capitalist business promoting lack of competition for a game per console. Microsoft doesn't like competition. 



S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:

Fear? lol that is business. And I stand by my claim. Getting timed exclusivity for indie games like Castle Crashers, Braid, Limbo, Minecraft, etc. It benefitted Xbox gamers with a 1st class treatment and MS reaped the revenue. PS3 got the scraps.


Correct yourself....modern American business. Anti-capitalist business promoting lack of competition for a game per console. Microsoft doesn't like competition. 

Damn straight. Either way, not my problem as their actions benefitted their consumer and theirs alone. I believe that was the one area where they truly cared on "Sony levels" lol



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
 

Fear? lol that is business. And I stand by my claim. Getting timed exclusivity for indie games like Castle Crashers, Braid, Limbo, Minecraft, etc. It benefitted Xbox gamers with a 1st class treatment and MS reaped the revenue. PS3 got the scraps.


Correct yourself....modern American business. Anti-capitalist business promoting lack of competition for a game per console. Microsoft doesn't like competition. 

Damn straight. Either way, not my problem as their actions benefitted their consumer and theirs alone. I believe that was the one area where they truly cared on "Sony levels" lol

Difference between Microsoft and Sony is when they lost third party exclusivity they made their own games. Microsoft is STILLL dependent regardless of the parity and they still play dirty. Nothing is safe for any of their gamers. There is a flaw in your feeling of safety.



sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
 

This in regards to MS demanding timed exclusivity and/or release parity with PSN? Because I can tell you first hand that it benefits the XBox gamer. We don't have to wait while someone else gets to play or we enjoy a 1st class experience with getting it first. If there was any place that MS truly cared for their gamers, it was the indie scene with 360.


They are hypocrites. The way they play is pretty damn dirty and a very bad example to set for the industry in how to deal with your competition. They tell developers to give them parity for games and then strip parity away from others because they are afraid it will make their console seem equal. That is called fear.

Fear? lol that is business. And I stand by my claim. Getting timed exclusivity for indie games like Castle Crashers, Braid, Limbo, Minecraft, etc. It benefitted Xbox gamers with a 1st class treatment and MS reaped the revenue. PS3 got the scraps.

Does that make it acceptable?

Aren't you a gamer and a consumer? Shouldn't you worry more about your best intrest? You talk about timed exclusivity for indies that were already avalible on pc as compensation for the truly exclusive ips you should be getting? 1st class treatment? Are you delusional? You've been paying for stuff that all the other people who don't game on Xbox get for free since 2013? With an Optional Premium service out valuing a premium one? You talk about PS3 getting scraps, it is still getting exclusive ips that also aren't avalible on PC, while Xbox makes you pay 60 dollars a year for advertising on a last gen console. 

The sad thing is, you actually believe MS has treated you well. All this talk about innovation when its people like you who are holding the industry back. MS has the resources to out do both Sony and Nintendo, but you will say they shouldn't treat you (the customer) with respect because that would affect their short term profit rather than investing in their consumers and you value MS's buisness more than your own self-worth. 

The OG Xbox, that was a investment. You sycophants can complain that Xbox was bleeding money, but they were doing it because they had a vision and that vision involved treating their customers with respect. When they released the 360, I already knew it was a scam, and when they announced the XB1 I knew it was a scam as well.

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villian.



In this day and age, with the Internet, ignorance is a choice! And they're still choosing Ignorance! - Dr. Filthy Frank

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S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
 

Damn straight. Either way, not my problem as their actions benefitted their consumer and theirs alone. I believe that was the one area where they truly cared on "Sony levels" lol

Difference between Microsoft and Sony is when they lost third party exclusivity they made their own games. Microsoft is STILLL dependent regardless of the parity and they still play dirty. Nothing is safe for any of their gamers. There is a flaw in your feeling of safety.

Lol geez give MS some time to actually make use of their new studios. Still find it awesome that only MS is willing to pay and play dirty to secure 3rd party exclusives and timed ones for their consumer and Sony just can't be bothered.

Only MS can get 3rd party exclusives from Crytek, Capcom, and buyout the PS4 version of a 3rd party blockbuster like Titanfall. Sony.....I doubt they have that level of commitment.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Seems to me that the writer prays more on reader's ignorance than Ms prays on consumers' ignorance.



sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
 

This in regards to MS demanding timed exclusivity and/or release parity with PSN? Because I can tell you first hand that it benefits the XBox gamer. We don't have to wait while someone else gets to play or we enjoy a 1st class experience with getting it first. If there was any place that MS truly cared for their gamers, it was the indie scene with 360.


They are hypocrites. The way they play is pretty damn dirty and a very bad example to set for the industry in how to deal with your competition. They tell developers to give them parity for games and then strip parity away from others because they are afraid it will make their console seem equal. That is called fear.

Fear? lol that is business. And I stand by my claim. Getting timed exclusivity for indie games like Castle Crashers, Braid, Limbo, Minecraft, etc. It benefitted Xbox gamers with a 1st class treatment and MS reaped the revenue. PS3 got the scraps.

So, at what part in your last couple of posts are you invalidating the claim that MSs anticonsumer policies affected gamers? in this case, as fps_dominator put it:

"it forces developer to ready an xbox version and delay other versions of the game until it has. If the indie development team is small, the game is delayed on all platforms just for xbox.... like xbox is supposed to be the first place they have to go to. Sure, they dont HAVE to, but in that case xbox fans lose out. Either way someone loses out."

Are you an advocate of people missing out because of some dumb clause?





BMaker11 said:
sales2099 said:

Fear? lol that is business. And I stand by my claim. Getting timed exclusivity for indie games like Castle Crashers, Braid, Limbo, Minecraft, etc. It benefitted Xbox gamers with a 1st class treatment and MS reaped the revenue. PS3 got the scraps.

So, at what part in your last couple of posts are you invalidating the claim that MSs anticonsumer policies affected gamers? in this case, as fps_dominator put it:

"it forces developer to ready an xbox version and delay other versions of the game until it has. If the indie development team is small, the game is delayed on all platforms just for xbox.... like xbox is supposed to be the first place they have to go to. Sure, they dont HAVE to, but in that case xbox fans lose out. Either way someone loses out."

Are you an advocate of people missing out because of some dumb clause?

Look. this isn't human rights issues or geopolitical struggles. This is video games and I am in it for my own personal entertainment. If someone misses out, that isn't my problem. If a gaming company goes out of their way to make sure I get the game first and don't have to wait while someone else does have it, then they have my respect.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
 

Damn straight. Either way, not my problem as their actions benefitted their consumer and theirs alone. I believe that was the one area where they truly cared on "Sony levels" lol

Difference between Microsoft and Sony is when they lost third party exclusivity they made their own games. Microsoft is STILLL dependent regardless of the parity and they still play dirty. Nothing is safe for any of their gamers. There is a flaw in your feeling of safety.

Lol geez give MS some time to actually make use of their new studios. Still find it awesome that only MS is willing to pay and play dirty to secure 3rd party exclusives and timed ones for their consumer and Sony just can't be bothered.

Only MS can get 3rd party exclusives from Crytek, Capcom, and buyout the PS4 version of a 3rd party blockbuster like Titanfall. Sony.....I doubt they have that level of commitment.


If you think EA is going to leave Titanfall exclusive as a franchise, you've got another thing coming. To act like EA doesn't see Sonys sales is a deluded belief.