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naznatips said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
I simply just hoped popular and appropriate characters like Midna and Krystal included, there is no reason either couldn't have made the grade. Also since they said there was room for a third 3rd party character most of us assumed there would be one.

Dissapointed or not, Everyone in this thread expected a larger roster, stop kidding yourselves. I'm not that bothered by it, nor should anyone else, but to say I was unphased by it would have just been a lie. Honestly I'm bothered more by Wolf's Final Smash than the roster, but even then that's not a big deal what-so-ever.

I don't appreciate the fact everyone here assumes my comment on the issue means I had wide eyed expectations of everything from Sephiroth to George W. Bush being in this game. I may make fantasy roster threads, but that's more food for thought and something to do in the mean time until this game comes out.

Okay, there are 39 characters selectable from the menu of this game, compared to 26 from Melee, and 12 from 64. The increase in roster size was larger when you consider that there were 5 worthless characters from Melee removed, making a total increase of 18 characters.  Not only that, but the quality of increase was much better.

We got completely unique characters like Olimar who are far too strange to have ever made it in Melee or 64 were most characters were largely derivative. And yes, I actually predicted 35-40 characters, and we got 35 character icons and 39 characters with different movesets. So no, I'm not kidding anyone, I'm just not ignorant of the Smash franchise like you are.


Nazna would you stop crying already. I'm not attacking the Roster, I'm just saying I and many others were expecting more characters. I am familiar with Smash, I own and have completed both of the first two in their entirety.

Stop attacking anyone who says they were expecting more. Everyone had high hopes for the roster's final number so its only natural people would be somewhat offset by the final number, but no one is attacking the roster as it stands or is saying it sucks. Get off your soap box and put down the pitch fork. You're making a fuss over something that doesn't warrent this drama. People have the right to say, "Well I was expecting more but this is perfectly fine..." Without being attacked by individuals like yourself who can't stand the implied criticism of such a game no matter how benign. People aren't dissing this game, people aren't being ignorant, people here are merely sharing their expectations for the game that whether met or not don't necessaraly reflect negatively on their opinion of the game.

You're just being elitist in trying to assert that your satisfaction with the roster as not only the standard but what should have been expected and if they didn't, well then they're obviously ignorant of Smash Bros. and not True Fans. When Character's like Wolf are included, there is no ground to claim we were naive to expect Krystal. When Character's like Diddy Kong are included, there is no ground to claim we were naive to expect Midna. When Character's like R.O.B. the robot are included, there is no ground to claim we were naive to expect Captain N. When Character's like Kid Icarus are included, there is no ground to claim we were naive to expect Mach Rider. When Character's like Snake and Sonic are included and the possibility of a third 3rd party character is mentioned, there is no ground to claim we were naive for expecting Megaman.

While there are endless individuals out there with asinine hopes and unrealistic predictions for characters in this game (just search google images for "brawl roster") its not justified for you to lump anyone with the slightest reservation of the Roster as it stands into that same group and hold us all in the same contempt.



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MANUELF said:
I need the Brawl and SMG OST, and I WANT the Brawl a más no poder.
They should be easy to find online, that other guy linked you to the Brawl one and you can find the Galaxy one at the same site. If you can't find it I can just send it to you. It did have one amazing OST.

 



naznatips said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
I simply just hoped popular and appropriate characters like Midna and Krystal included, there is no reason either couldn't have made the grade. Also since they said there was room for a third 3rd party character most of us assumed there would be one.

Dissapointed or not, Everyone in this thread expected a larger roster, stop kidding yourselves. I'm not that bothered by it, nor should anyone else, but to say I was unphased by it would have just been a lie. Honestly I'm bothered more by Wolf's Final Smash than the roster, but even then that's not a big deal what-so-ever.

I don't appreciate the fact everyone here assumes my comment on the issue means I had wide eyed expectations of everything from Sephiroth to George W. Bush being in this game. I may make fantasy roster threads, but that's more food for thought and something to do in the mean time until this game comes out.

Okay, there are 39 characters selectable from the menu of this game, compared to 26 from Melee, and 12 from 64. The increase in roster size was larger when you consider that there were 5 worthless characters from Melee removed, making a total increase of 18 characters. Not only that, but the quality of increase was much better.

We got completely unique characters like Olimar who are far too strange to have ever made it in Melee or 64 were most characters were largely derivative. And yes, I actually predicted 35-40 characters, and we got 35 character icons and 39 characters with different movesets. So no, I'm not kidding anyone, I'm just not ignorant of the Smash franchise like you are.


are the 4 extra characters (saying 39 movesets) Zero suit samus and shiek? and ? which am i missing?



Pokemon Trainer's Pokemon all have unique movesets.



The game needed Sigourny Weaver as a playable Character or the Alien from the Aliens movies. LOL



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No. It didn't.



Edouble24 said:
No. It didn't.

It's called sarcasm you clueless dolt.



Girl Gamer Elite said:
naznatips said:
Girl Gamer Elite said:
I simply just hoped popular and appropriate characters like Midna and Krystal included, there is no reason either couldn't have made the grade. Also since they said there was room for a third 3rd party character most of us assumed there would be one.

Dissapointed or not, Everyone in this thread expected a larger roster, stop kidding yourselves. I'm not that bothered by it, nor should anyone else, but to say I was unphased by it would have just been a lie. Honestly I'm bothered more by Wolf's Final Smash than the roster, but even then that's not a big deal what-so-ever.

I don't appreciate the fact everyone here assumes my comment on the issue means I had wide eyed expectations of everything from Sephiroth to George W. Bush being in this game. I may make fantasy roster threads, but that's more food for thought and something to do in the mean time until this game comes out.

Okay, there are 39 characters selectable from the menu of this game, compared to 26 from Melee, and 12 from 64. The increase in roster size was larger when you consider that there were 5 worthless characters from Melee removed, making a total increase of 18 characters. Not only that, but the quality of increase was much better.

We got completely unique characters like Olimar who are far too strange to have ever made it in Melee or 64 were most characters were largely derivative. And yes, I actually predicted 35-40 characters, and we got 35 character icons and 39 characters with different movesets. So no, I'm not kidding anyone, I'm just not ignorant of the Smash franchise like you are.


Nazna would you stop crying already. I'm not attacking the Roster, I'm just saying I and many others were expecting more characters. I am familiar with Smash, I own and have completed both of the first two in their entirety.

Stop attacking anyone who says they were expecting more. Everyone had high hopes for the roster's final number so its only natural people would be somewhat offset by the final number, but no one is attacking the roster as it stands or is saying it sucks. Get off your soap box and put down the pitch fork. You're making a fuss over something that doesn't warrent this drama. People have the right to say, "Well I was expecting more but this is perfectly fine..." Without being attacked by individuals like yourself who can't stand the implied criticism of such a game no matter how benign. People aren't dissing this game, people aren't being ignorant, people here are merely sharing their expectations for the game that whether met or not don't necessaraly reflect negatively on their opinion of the game.

You're just being elitist in trying to assert that your satisfaction with the roster as not only the standard but what should have been expected and if they didn't, well then they're obviously ignorant of Smash Bros. and not True Fans. When Character's like Wolf are included, there is no ground to claim we were naive to expect Krystal. When Character's like Diddy Kong are included, there is no ground to claim we were naive to expect Midna. When Character's like R.O.B. the robot are included, there is no ground to claim we were naive to expect Captain N. When Character's like Kid Icarus are included, there is no ground to claim we were naive to expect Mach Rider. When Character's like Snake and Sonic are included and the possibility of a third 3rd party character is mentioned, there is no ground to claim we were naive for expecting Megaman.

While there are endless individuals out there with asinine hopes and unrealistic predictions for characters in this game (just search google images for "brawl roster") its not justified for you to lump anyone with the slightest reservation of the Roster as it stands into that same group and hold us all in the same contempt.

I don't think it was naive to expect that many characters. I think it was unrealistic. I expected more or less the amount of characters that we got. Honestly, do you remember how excited you were (or should have been) when the first brawl trailer revealed Pit, Meta Knight, Wario, Zero Suit Samus, and SNAKE? It's very unrealistic to expect a larger roster, and I think you were in the minority in believing so. The reason Naz is so peeved at you is because, well, you're WHINING. Whining and complaining gets old. It would be like buying a kid a Wii and PS3, then he complains because he didn't get an Xbox 360.

Also, none of your character parables are really good examples. Diddy is not comparable to Midna at all. Biggest character besides Donkey Kong in the DK franchise vs. A side character from the most recent Zelda game, for example, and Wolf is the main villain of Starfox, hence the obviousness of his inclusion. All in all, you're whining about a game that has personally expected any reasonable expectations anybody could have had for it.

 



Crusty VGchartz old timer who sporadically returns & posts. Let's debate nebulous shit and expand our perpectives. Or whatever.

You claim none of my comparisons are good but only point out two, of which you are mistaken in Wolf being the main Villain, he's only ever been an anti-hero, Andross is the main villain.

Everyone expected more characters, but no one is bothered by the fact there aren't. It is people like you attacking us for merely saying we hoped for more characters that made this an issue.

After the fact its easy for anyone to say this is all that should have been expected. Where were you before the final roster was listed when people made claims of their being lots of characters? Where was Nazna and his claim people are ignorant of Smash because of their want for more characters before the final Roster was released.

You're just cowards standing tall after the fact, none of you had the courage to say any of this before the roster was announced because you yourselves had no clue just how many there would be. Right now you just can't stand seeing anyone have any reservations about a game. As a bonus you get to play the "I'm a true fan but you're not" ego ride.

You Blaydcor have just jumped into this without knowing how it started and how Nazna turned a small thing into a huge drama fest. To be honest, and given your past history on the forum too, you just want to argue.



Edouble24 said:
The roster is perfectly fine, and Ridley shouldn't be a playable character anyway.

Agreed. 

It's been said already but the bump in characters is in line with previous games.
smash had 12
melee had 26 (including sheik)
brawl has 37 (-4, +14 with young link taking on a new form). Aside from mewtwo, the characters not returning are clones/throwaways.

look at virtua fighter. There are a total of 7 games in the series (5 main + evolution and 3tb) and I'm pretty sure the totlal number of characters to appear in the series is 19. Despite that, each installment is considered to be amoung the best on the market. So, people should be amped to see so many familiar faces.

I just think the daily updates got people wishing too big.... Especially since they occurred over a year and a half.