So we have 45 disgusting visitors/members on this forum.
Good to know.
...and the sad thing is that I know of at least 4 people who voted for the worst option.
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What do you think about Nintendo's attitude? | |||
| Awful, they should fail i... | 189 | 14.04% | |
| Pretty Bad, they should l... | 385 | 28.60% | |
| Not bad, they're just as anybody else | 188 | 13.97% | |
| Good, we need more like them | 389 | 28.90% | |
| Excellent, they don't need to change one bit | 173 | 12.85% | |
| Total: | 1,324 | ||
So we have 45 disgusting visitors/members on this forum.
Good to know.
...and the sad thing is that I know of at least 4 people who voted for the worst option.
Moderated,
-Mr Khan
| mysteryman said: So your complaint is that a Turn-Based Strategy game is not real-time? How does that even make sense to you? |
My complaint is that Nintendo made Pokémon a turn-based fighting game within a primitive RPG architecture. Pokémons randomly appear after the character going around in circles in the grass? Wtf? The player cannot throw a pokeball at any time and how he/she wants? The battles are only about selecting attacks? How sad. The fans deserved more.
With such a primitive architecture and gameplay, it's easy to put in there 700 characters.
I have never said that only photo-realism require effort and that artistic creation is not valuable. Please post here the sentences where I said such things.
Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 70M WiiU: 25M
Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 50M WiiU: 18M
Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 90M XOne: 40M WiiU: 15M Switch: 20M
Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 110M XOne: 50M WiiU: 14M Switch: 65M
| orniletter said: So we have 45 disgusting visitors/members on this forum. ...and the sad thing is that I know of at least 4 people who voted for the worst option. |
What are you? A terrorist?
Please, let people have their own opinions and freely debate here.
Moderated,
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Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 70M WiiU: 25M
Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 50M WiiU: 18M
Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 90M XOne: 40M WiiU: 15M Switch: 20M
Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 110M XOne: 50M WiiU: 14M Switch: 65M
Zod95 said:
Sure, that's why I put "debt" within quotation marks
The OP says nothing against that, just that they only a small part of what they earn to do so.
This is purely subjective, only your opinion. The market may just want 4k@60fps games, that will be ok if it's what people want. You are rather telling what you want. Moreover, Nintendo leading the way in trying new game experiences and interaction innovations is again purely subjective. Other people may tell it's Sony. Others may tell it's Ubisoft. Etc. |
Funny, you can point out subjective opinions except when they are yours.
Zod95 said:
What are you? A terrorist? Please, let people have their own opinions and freely debate here. |
Every single person who wants Nintendo to go out of business is not a fan of videogames.
They are petty fanboys who live in their prefered platforms bubble.
You can dislike their games, their hardware choices their practices that ended over a decade ago
...but you can´t wish for a company as influental as Nintendo to die because of that.
Every true videogame fan understands that.
And my opinion is that those people are disgusting .
| Nem said: but as far as the exclusives go, its business. Without those Nintendo consoles would be nothing. I guess that frustration is what led you to write this opinated nonsense and try to hide it under the format of a professional article. Your just gonna have to learn to deal with it. Nintendo strategy passes in great part by differentiating their products in the market through an exclusive brand offering. There is nothing wrong with that. |
First, exclusives are a bad thing for any gamer that can't afford all the systems. Second, assuming you're right, why am I not frustrated with Sony and Microsoft? Third, the OP covers far more topics than just exclusives. Fourth, the way to talk to me shows anger towards my "opinions". If their just opinions, why don't you respect them?
| Nem said: They dont put their fate on other companies hands and make the system that allows them to carry on their strategy. Those that want to join in, great. Those that dont, so be it. Should Nintendo try to make more encopassing systems t? Why? It does not help their strategy. They need to aim at consumer needs, not to be misinterpreted with your personal needs. If theres sales third parties will jump on board naturally. |
Making systems for all developers benefits everybody: devs make more money because they launch the games on more consoles, gamers have more titles on their platform, the console sells more because it appeals to a larger audience, etc.
Being egocentric has the opposite effect. If they don't want to put their fate on other companies, that's fine, they will end up being alone...as it is happening more and more on each generation.
Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 70M WiiU: 25M
Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 50M WiiU: 18M
Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 90M XOne: 40M WiiU: 15M Switch: 20M
Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 110M XOne: 50M WiiU: 14M Switch: 65M
Zod95 said:
My complaint is that Nintendo made Pokémon a turn-based fighting game within a primitive RPG architecture. Pokémons randomly appear after the character going around in circles in the grass? Wtf? The player cannot throw a pokeball at any time and how he/she wants? The battles are only about selecting attacks? How sad. The fans deserved more. With such a primitive architecture and gameplay, it's easy to put in there 700 characters. I have never said that only photo-realism require effort and that artistic creation is not valuable. Please post here the sentences where I said such things. |
Well, you sure did talk a lot about Nintendo's cartoony characters , I refer you back to rant 1.2. You spoke of how they lack in visual fidelity/realism.
But I see now what you really meant after your Pokemon comment there..... Only Nintendo games that are cartoony are not valuable to you.
This thread is a joke.
In addition to Nintendo games and their hardware, I love them because of their attitude.
They always bring different views and solutions on the market, a good alternative.
Just look at the last two generations of consoles, PS3/Xbox360 are clones, Wii is the one who brought a great alternative to the generation and selection of a different, similar to the situation and the current generation, PS4/XboxOne clones, while the Wii U brings something new and different to them.
Nintendo makes different hardware that offers a different experience and make totally different games that are very high quality and very fun to play, and that's the point.
Nintendo goes generally safe because unlike Sony and Microsoft, they are just gaiming companie, so they cant just compensation minus from the other spheres of business, unlike Sony and Microsoft, that is why they are on market for more than 100 years.
Nintendo needs to change, (for example, it's a shame to have such a accaunt system), but I would not want to be like Sony and Microsoft, it would not be good for anyone, not for Nintendo, not for gamers.
| cannonballZ said: So, you say using a different architecture isn't innovation, it's hindering 3rd party support... Did you feel that way about the cell processor? |
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6101659
| cannonballZ said: Tell me, what has Sony or MS given back to you as a gamer that Nintendo hasn't? |
Essentially, more evolved consoles and games and far larger game catalogues (I'm including 3rd parties and excluding shovelware).
| cannonballZ said: If you don't like Nintendo games, I imagine you would feel they gave nothing back. But I feel Nintendo has contributed a lot for the gamers, just as much as the others if not more. That is my opinion, but under your logic it equals to a FACT. |
No no, it's not about my opinion. Everything that Nintendo has produced is actually giving back. I'm not taking into account my tastes. I don't talk about good or bad. I talk about more or less evolved, larger or smaller, anything that can be measurable. Whether I like Nintendo games has no relevance at all.
| cannonballZ said: What about Sony's proprietary memory cards?... like the ones for Vita, I'm sure you loved those. Or how about their mini disc format. Or their Beta vcr ? I guess all those products that sony makes are the best for everyone! right? Yep Sony only gives back to the people. FACT |
Proprietary memory cards are a bad thing. Mini-disc format for what? PSP? Vita? Portables haven't enough size to have CD/DVD/BR. Betamax was just an attempt to set the standard (like VHS, CD, DVD, Blu-ray), I can't criticize them for that.
Nevertheless, Sony Game Division has given back as much as it has taken (see the profits history). And that's a fact. Whether you like or not the products that come from the money they've invested, just already your opinion.
| cannonballZ said: You are wrong, not everyone views the gamepad as a gimmick, you want proof then do a little reading in the forums. It has great functionality, I wish all three systems had a second screen. FACT |
Gimmick - "a special feature for the sake of having a special feature"
It's not about whether it's appreciated or not by the gamers. Nintendo without the WiiU gamepad had no strategy for the 8th gen. They have introduced a special feature for the sake of having a special feature.
Prediction made in 14/01/2014 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 70M WiiU: 25M
Prediction made in 01/04/2016 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 100M XOne: 50M WiiU: 18M
Prediction made in 15/04/2017 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 90M XOne: 40M WiiU: 15M Switch: 20M
Prediction made in 24/03/2018 for 31/12/2020: PS4: 110M XOne: 50M WiiU: 14M Switch: 65M
| Zod95 said: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6101659
Essentially, more evolved consoles and games and far larger game catalogues (I'm including 3rd parties and excluding shovelware).
No no, it's not about my opinion. Everything that Nintendo has produced is actually giving back. I'm not taking into account my tastes. I don't talk about good or bad. I talk about more or less evolved, larger or smaller, anything that can be measurable. Whether I like Nintendo games has no relevance at all.
Proprietary memory cards are a bad thing. Mini-disc format for what? PSP? Vita? Portables haven't enough size to have CD/DVD/BR. Betamax was just an attempt to set the standard (like VHS, CD, DVD, Blu-ray), I can't criticize them for that. Nevertheless, Sony Game Division has given back as much as it has taken (see the profits history). And that's a fact. Whether you like or not the products that come from the money they've invested, just already your opinion.
Gimmick - "a special feature for the sake of having a special feature" It's not about whether it's appreciated or not by the gamers. Nintendo without the WiiU gamepad had no strategy for the 8th gen. They have introduced a special feature for the sake of having a special feature. |
Same thing could be said about ds4, the touch pad is just a gimmick. And to be honest, it seems Nintendo doesn't have a solid plan WITH the gamepad yet. I do love having a second screen, to me it feels less gimmicky than the wii motes.
Wii was my most hated Nintendo system. I did not really support Nintendo much last gen. I bought the console day one, but didn't buy any games for it after the first year.
They took a chance with the gamepad, and I really like what they did. I wish they would utilize more often, but as DKC:TP has shown, they can't come up with ideas for it all the time or for every game. But the games that do use the gamepad brilliantly, really make the controller stand out. I would support second screen gaming for any console.