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Forums - Sales - Global EVERYTHING Up! - Week ending Feb 15 (3DS on top - PS4 adjusted up - X1, Vita, WiiU duking it out - WiiU's last week #1?)

pezus said:
Patty2720 said:

Hi everyone :)

 

Through these last few months i've been collecting data from various souces such as; NPD and Vgchartz and I have to say, the numbers i've come up with are close to those of NPD and Vgchartz, but I find mine to be more accurate.

Here take a look.



Official numbers

Week 2: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/12/03/ps4-sells-over-21-million-units-globally
Week 6: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/01/07/ces-playstation-4-sales-pass-42-million
Week 12: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/18/ps4-sales-pass-5-million-ahead-of-japanese-launch

Is it guessing with adjustments based on NPD/VGC/Official numbers or do you track them somehow?


To be honest, yes, I do some guessing. But having said that, I do have one other source other than NPD and Vgchartz, but it wouldn't be wise for me to talk about who. :)



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GribbleGrunger said:
pezus said:
Justagamer said:
Fusioncode said:
3DS is ridiculously overtracked again. It only sold 97k last month in the US, how is it selling 49k this week alone?


I guess ioi didn't hear about those "leaks"... Lol

He did. Otherwise he wouldn't have adjusted 3DS down. He just doesn't want to adjust exactly to what NPD says, for some reason.

Posted on previous page:


So if that's the adjustments, then he didn't adjust the 3ds down at all, right?



Normchacho said:
fatslob-:O said:
Normchacho said:
fatslob-:O said:
Normchacho said:

You said that the numbers were "bad news for Sony" and they just aren't. Who's numbers are comparing the real numbers to? Who thought the PS4 was going to have a better January and February than the Wii? It sounds more like someone just preditced wrong than this being an issue for Sony.

When did I say that the numbers are bad news for Sony ? These numbers are half decent and it's falling out of our expectations. 


"This doesn't sound good for the PS4 ..." That was your first post on this thread. Which is equal in meaning to "This sounds bad for the PS4"

You've also yet to explain whos expectations the PS4 is falling short of.

That's wrong but I can see people getting that expression so I should clarify there for moment to say that the PS4 isn't doing good or bad and is instead doing decent although with a slight balance towards the bad side.

It's fallen short of everyone's expectations on this forum seeing as how people are running around screeming undertracked which means that there's alot of panicking or their either damage controlling the situation at hand. 


Well no, that's actually what that means. "doesn't" is a contraction of "does not". "Not" being an auxilery word used to turn a phrase to it's negative. In this case "Good" would be the affected word which in it's negative turns into "bad".

How is the second best January ever (with February likely to follow) "decent although with a slight balance towards that bad"?

Once again, who's numbers are you going off of? Who said it was going to outsell the Wii in January and February? Please, let me know. VGchartz has also been consisently undertracking the PS4 so why would it change all of a sudden?

No it doesn't. This isn't binary. There are THREE states. 

Nobody was expecting it to outsell the WII for january and february but everyone was expecting it to be comparable and the PS4 has fallen short of it. BTW the undertracking hasn't being all that huge. 



fatslob-:O said:
DerNebel said:
fatslob-:O said:

Did it have a better first january than WII ?

Did the PS1 and PS2 have a better first January than the Wii?

No but that was back then when Sony had no following with the PS1 and there were supply issues with the PS2 while both were riding on GOOD macroeconomic trends but this time it's hard to sell a $400 console in this day and age. 

Looking at stock levels it doesn't seem hard to sell the PS4 at all. Seriously you need to stop comparing it to the Wii and then drawing conclusions from that, neither the PS1 nor PS2 sold as well as the Wii at the beginning, but they both outsold it because they managed to sell for a longer time, the same goes for the PS4, it is absolutely not necessary for it to reach weekly sales of the Wiis first year right now.



Justagamer said:
GribbleGrunger said:
pezus said:
Justagamer said:
Fusioncode said:
3DS is ridiculously overtracked again. It only sold 97k last month in the US, how is it selling 49k this week alone?


I guess ioi didn't hear about those "leaks"... Lol

He did. Otherwise he wouldn't have adjusted 3DS down. He just doesn't want to adjust exactly to what NPD says, for some reason.

Posted on previous page:


So if that's the adjustments, then he didn't adjust the 3ds down at all, right?

3DS was adjusted down.  



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

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DerNebel said:
fatslob-:O said:
DerNebel said:
fatslob-:O said:

Did it have a better first january than WII ?

Did the PS1 and PS2 have a better first January than the Wii?

No but that was back then when Sony had no following with the PS1 and there were supply issues with the PS2 while both were riding on GOOD macroeconomic trends but this time it's hard to sell a $400 console in this day and age. 

Looking at stock levels it doesn't seem hard to sell the PS4 at all. Seriously you need to stop comparing it to the Wii and then drawing conclusions from that, neither the PS1 nor PS2 sold as well as the Wii at the beginning, but they both outsold it because they managed to sell for a longer time, the same goes for the PS4, it is absolutely not necessary for it to reach weekly sales of the Wiis first year right now.

The market isn't growing ... It's retracting ...



Justagamer said:
GribbleGrunger said:
pezus said:
Justagamer said:
Fusioncode said:
3DS is ridiculously overtracked again. It only sold 97k last month in the US, how is it selling 49k this week alone?


I guess ioi didn't hear about those "leaks"... Lol

He did. Otherwise he wouldn't have adjusted 3DS down. He just doesn't want to adjust exactly to what NPD says, for some reason.

Posted on previous page:


So if that's the adjustments, then he didn't adjust the 3ds down at all, right?

I think those are the adjustments just done today, the 3DS was adjusted down last week.



I dont think PS4 sold that low and 3DS just stays flat, might need adjustments again. Demand isnt decreasing and neither stock is getting worse.



pezus said:
tbone51 said:
pezus said:
Zero999 said:

I hope that square gets the memo after seeing FF 13-3 outsold by lego movie.

FF sold more, though, so they have to wait a bit for the memo.

In the meantime they might look at FF sales compared to Bravely Default and decide more FF games are in order.


i see who your arguing with but c'mon! BD is a new ip thats doing pretty damn well and your comparing it to the all mighty FF (even if Lightning Returns is the worse

BTW They are making more BD so there is that :p (im not arguing with you though, just defending a good game!)

Lol it was only a joke 

They're also making more FF's lol!

ohhh realllly??? :0 I would of never guess that You think FFXV is a good approach (gameplay)? It looks interesting. Im definitely getting a ps4 something next year and KH3 is one of my most anticipated games (i like FF too but i skipped the last main ones unfortunately)



Shadow1980 said:

Because Japan. They really don't like the Wii U.


I think Japan's love for the WiiU is a lot stronger than the USA's love for Vita, though, so I'm not quite sure that's the reason :P