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Goatseye said:
whatever said:
 

X1 needs a lot more than that.

Not really...

I guess if your OK with 1/2 the sales of your competitor, then your right.



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lucidium said:
LiquorandGunFun said:
Titanfall looks and runs fine on xbo. plus $150 isnt all you need, you need all the shit to go with it, motherboard, ram, power supply, computer case, cpu, etc.

Its no secret PC is more powerful than the new consoles. This is Nvidia trolling since they are shit leopards about amd shit being used in the consoles.


Nvidia didnt say shit about anything to do with the comparisons, that would be gamespot, might wanna use the ironsights on that rage fella.

LOL thats hardly "rage". Nvidia is bitter about it. 



 

freedquaker said:
BenVTrigger said:


Yep in comparison to PC's at the same time as launch this has been one of the smallest jumps in power of any gen. I really hope were only looking at a 4-5 year console cycle this time.

Please read this:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178737

I am a bit surprised with the way that people are underwhelmed by the jump. I believe more to do with the diminishing returns to the perception of performance, rather than the actual technical achievement. Because I see that the jump is as big as it has always been, if not bigger... Such claims arise especially because of a much easier comparison to the PC architecture this time around instead of propriety and mystical designs, which are harder to prove otherwise. Let's remember that compared to the 7th Generation console designs, the vast majority of developers are relatively much happier this time around, and the technicalities aside, the PC ports to the next-gen consoles look relatively way better without serious sacrificies.

 

In short, the next gen consoles (or at least PS4) is not weak at all but more than capable, because...

 

a) Those Consoles come with octo-core processors, which is well beyond the main stream pc with dual core. It's true that those cores have relatively poor single thread performance but with the sufficient level of parallelism and low level calls, CPUs had never been this fast in relative terms (compared to PCs). So the CPU performance will never be an issue. Also keep in mind that the CPU performance improvements have slowed tremendously at the last decade.

b) The amount of RAM (8 GB) is well beyond the main stream PC (4-6 GB) today, which had never happened. Most games are not even programmed to run on more than 3 GB, and this is the first time in history, where the console ports don't have to be downsized at all. In comparison, 1 GB was the mainstream RAM when the 7th Gen consoles arrived with only 1/2 RAM including the graphics, and 128 MB was the mainstream when PS2 arrived with 32 MB! Also today we have so much RAM on our PCs that the capacity increases came to a crawl.

c) 500 GB, although still may be not much for today's games, is relatively abundant compared to the debut with the 7th Gen. consoles.

d) The GPU seems to be archiles heel, at least with the XB1. However, it's unfair to the PS4 as it seems to be just fine with 1080p and up to 60 fps. We know that the graphics will improve over time, squeezing either better graphics or more stable performance. Given that most TVs today are not capable of producing resolutions greater than 1080p, there really is no point in putting a higher GPU than what PS4 has over the long run.

e) PS4 employs a super fast GDDR5, equivalent to the PC tech, but just much more of it. Games, which are not designed with this in mind will not magically look better, but they will come in time. Couple this with many exciting technologies, none of which has been implemented yet, which are more likely to see on consoles than on the PC.


In short, PS4 is the most balanced machine out there for the long term, and is more than capable to serve as long as PS3 did. XB1, on the other hand, although similar, is crippled by its inefficient design, with respect to the RAM Bandwidth. If only XB1 had incorporated GDDR5 instead of DDR3 + ESRAM (or at least a DDR3+GDDR5 solution similar to PS3), ditching the Kinect, things would be much rosier for it now.

 


When the Xbox 360 launched its GPU was top end and the Cell on PS3 was also pretty much like nothing else.

PS4 and Xbox One would be considered low to mid range builds in todays PC market. In a year they will be budget build models. This is in comparison to PC the smallest jump generation wise.  



LiquorandGunFun said:
Titanfall looks and runs fine on xbo. plus $150 isnt all you need, you need all the shit to go with it, motherboard, ram, power supply, computer case, cpu, etc.

Its no secret PC is more powerful than the new consoles. This is Nvidia trolling since they are shit leopards about amd shit being used in the consoles.

One can now build a complete PC with this graphic card for about $500 that plays most games with better graphics and does everything the xbox one can, minus most kinect functionality (for now). And of course the PC does more than just plays games (for the same price).



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BenVTrigger said:

When the Xbox 360 launched its GPU was top end and the Cell on PS3 was also pretty much like nothing else.

PS4 and Xbox One would be considered low to mid range builds in todays PC market. In a year they will be budget build models. This is in comparison to PC the smallest jump generation wise.  


Xbox 360 may have been lucky to fall in to high end when it came out but it became mid range in less than a year when Nvidia launched the 8000 series of cards. 8800 GTX absolutely demolishes both last gen consoles and in came out in late 2006.

Hell 8800 GTX is almost as powerful as Xbox One GPU 7 years later.



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Oh look...a new shiny dedicated GPU using latest technology that costs almost 1/3 of the entire console by itself runs a game better.

Seriously how is this even news?

There are several GPUs that are around 150-200 bucks and can match or beat both Xbox One and PS4. Even with dedicated console "optimization" sauce devs are supposed to be using.



disolitude said:
BenVTrigger said:

When the Xbox 360 launched its GPU was top end and the Cell on PS3 was also pretty much like nothing else.

PS4 and Xbox One would be considered low to mid range builds in todays PC market. In a year they will be budget build models. This is in comparison to PC the smallest jump generation wise.  


Xbox 360 may have been lucky to fall in to high end when it came out but it became mid range in less than a year when Nvidia launched the 8000 series of cards. 8800 GTX absolutely demolishes both last gen consoles and in came out in late 2006.

Hell 8800 GTX is almost as powerful as Xbox One GPU 7 years later.

Yeah I know it was quickly surpassed but it was high end tech at launch. Xbox One at launch is mid tier at best, considering 750ti is only a $150 GPU and it more than capable of performing at Xbox One levels. The 360 didn't depreciate as fast as Xbox One is going to. Honestly in 4 years I don't see how its going to run new games considering it struggles to even handle and up rezzed port of Tomb Raider and can't even hit 1080p on it.



Not trying to go off topic but, I have a 560ti, is the 750ti better? I've been thinking about an upgrade, although the 560ti is still pretty good. What would be a solid upgrade? Thanks to those that offer their opinions!



BenVTrigger said:
disolitude said:
BenVTrigger said:

When the Xbox 360 launched its GPU was top end and the Cell on PS3 was also pretty much like nothing else.

PS4 and Xbox One would be considered low to mid range builds in todays PC market. In a year they will be budget build models. This is in comparison to PC the smallest jump generation wise.  


Xbox 360 may have been lucky to fall in to high end when it came out but it became mid range in less than a year when Nvidia launched the 8000 series of cards. 8800 GTX absolutely demolishes both last gen consoles and in came out in late 2006.

Hell 8800 GTX is almost as powerful as Xbox One GPU 7 years later.

Yeah I know it was quickly surpassed but it was high end tech at launch. Xbox One at launch is mid tier at best, considering 750ti is only a $150 GPU and it more than capable of performing at Xbox One levels. The 360 didn't depreciate as fast as Xbox One is going to. Honestly in 4 years I don't see how its going to run new games considering it struggles to even handle and up rezzed port of Tomb Raider and can't even hit 1080p on it.

You may be factually correct but other than bragging rights of "we had a high end GPU for 12 months", does it really matter that X360 had a high end GPU for slightly longer than current gen? We all know the 360 console was rushed and it may have been lucky to fall in between GPU cycles and have some of the high end features for a bit longer. It all evens out at the end. By the time PS3 launched there were several GPUs with both manufacturers running circles around next gen consoles. 

I'm not trying to defend current gen consoles...I'm a PC guy...but for what they are, they are perfectly fine with current specs. 



disolitude said:
Oh look...a new shiny dedicated GPU using latest technology that costs almost 1/3 of the entire console by itself runs a game better.

Seriously how is this even news?

There are several GPUs that are around 150-200 bucks and can match or beat both Xbox One and PS4. Even with dedicated console "optimization" sauce devs are supposed to be using.

It's implied that it makes most casual PCs capable of playing at 1080p resolutions without much needed but simply stick in and play. You can choose to be narrow about it, but this will land many PC's in the price range of the XOne. Duh even a 280X is cheaper than a PS4 and it mops the floor with it. Going back, If you are to compare just for the sake, then PS4 would still offer better value at $399. Building a PC with say a 265 would still land you at the XOne price range.

The accessibly and new technology is there and there is nothing to see? Geez I should apologize, absolutely no news here people. Carry on.



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