In terms of performance, though, Bayonetta 2 will easily best both by virtue of targeting 60 fps instead of 30.

man, i'm going to get both of these games, and they look pretty good, but no. The difference is pretty noticeable. Neither of these look to touch titan fall or elder scrolls online graphically. To be pretty honest I was fairly disappointed with the movement of the creatures in "x".

I already fucking said, before the the PS4 or X1 even came out, that the improvements will be lighting/shadow and physics, good lighting and shadows take a shit ton of RAM and that's where the larger memory pool comes in, and physic will open up for new game play possibilities which would be good too. The problem though, is that neither the PS4 and X1 will have enough power to really open up a can of whoop ass on the physics department so we will not see actual impressive physics in the games, but it should be enough to "wow" the 7th gen console only gamers enough while the PC gamers keep crying about how console gaming drags down advancements in video game graphics and interaction.

Also, X already looks better than RDR at this stage if you have a pair of working eyes and it looks better than the alpha videos from the past trailers, it will probably improve again when we next see it as well, I'm not too worried about it since I was mostly paying attention to how the combat worked rather than concentrating on the graphics along. "HUGE SUCCEEDED!" like wtf is that lol......

Can't compare Bayo 2 with GoW 3, one has free roaming camera at a faster pace and the other one is a static camera and much slower game play, I've demoed Bayo 2 and I've finished GoW 3, both are great looking games, Bayo 2 looks really good in person and the video compressions fuck it up because the action is so much faster than GoW 3 that GoW 3 feels like a game for turtles is what's going on there. You can't even figure out the texture details in Bayo 2 videos and things look blurry, but they are super clear when in person.

I think you are missing the point at this point, he asked, can Wii U do proper fluid simulation, the answer is "yes." So he actually lost a point there, as far as "acceptable performance" goes, no console can produce super duper good fluid simulation en masses, they are too weak and require hacks like "only when this object hits the water, will the water interact in a certain radius and fade out before it reaches the border" type of water simulation, which is also fine and can be done on the Wii U since no games should be doing water simluation on an entire river or ocean 100% of the time cause that'd be a game designer flaw in wasting resources. In all, he asked a dumb question, there no need to press it.

Did you even bother to read the whole thread before undermining my thoughts ? -_-

My eyes work just fine.

I did, it was a dumb attempt to downplay the Wii U and overplay the other consoles when I keep iterating that they are all nothing super powerful to start with.

Yeah, X already looks better lol, thanks for the pictures.

Just how exactly is it an attempt to down play the WII U ? 

Edit: If anything I would be willing to argue that the difference is just as big ...

LOL are you for real.