I own a Wii U, but I didn't know that. I hardly ever check out miiverse lol.

Also fatslob saw what I'm talking about ;)

*Bwahahaha*

I guess I've shamelessly spent too much time being a fatslob PC elitist LOL. 

For being Nintendo's FIRST AAA HD game that started its development on the Wii?  I'd say Pikmin 3 was a solid effort, actually, lol

Pikmin 3 is essentially a Wii 1.5 game (if the Wii U is Wii 2.0), so I kept my expectations realistic, and was rather impressed by their first efforts!

You're making us look bad

I only go after dirty console peasants when they attack, and THEN I smash them with the might of my GTXs, lol

where's your proof that PS4 and xone are near there full capacity? I didnt say anything about 3rd parties I dont know where you brought that from. They dont optimize PERIOD regardless of console unless its exclusive and even then. AC4 goes both ways for Wii U and PS4 and xone. Full HD stride? OK maybe they still seem to be struggling but that tells me that they may NEVER reach "full stride"

Never said those games didnt come out fine, but if we wanna compare exclusives they are stil MILES behind Infamous SS and KZ:SF for that matter. IMHO. No i dont see fast growth, every game you mentioned are in the same ballpark visually so im not seeing a growth and if im being honest all those games could still run on PS360 7 year old systems, they'll look worst for sure.

Your original claim did not speciy is had to be a volumetric fluid simulation. But I don't see why Wii U couldn't run that, its got a GPGPU with a relatively modern feature set.

I am thankfull about one thing though and it's that AMD has improved MASSIVELY on TESSELLATION. Their tessellation engine used to be so shitty at the HD 5000 era and as you can see that is the cause of pikmin 3's low polyness. 

If theres one thing that I've always like better about nvidia it's definitely that nice polymorph engine that they implemented in their GPUs. 

Read the rest of the thread Curl ...

Sure I didn't specify but I thought people knew what I was going on about. Just because the WII U supports GPGPU (Well every console that had DX9 capable cards were able to do it so that includes PS360 as well.) does not mean that you will get acceptable performance and that especially goes for where the fluid occupies a large voxel.

I could ask you the same question about the Wii U's capacity... Why is it that the PS4/XBox1 will have SO much growth and are BARELY using full capacity, but the Wii U won't and doesn't?  I mentioned the 3rd party thing because people assume that the Wii U's afterthought ports are somehow a good representation of the console's power.

It's more of a PC gamer thing, with the teraflops of the PS4's GPU and the graphical output they're managing.  After building gaming rigs for a long time (and spending hours benchmarking and overclocking), you start to get a feel for what the power and numbers are capable of pulling off, even unoptimized...

To re-emphasize the whole point of the thread: I never said the PS4/XBox1 aren't more powerful.  But I don't see someone looking at Bayonetta 2 or 'X' and thinking "PS4 blows this out of the water!" other than a Sony fanboy, or potentially a PC gamer who looks for the "details".  That massive gap and "underpowered" problem of the last gen Wii are no longer there, and people need to stop propagating that belief!

I started to see AMD GPUs as good for one thing: bitcoin mining.

I may EVENTUALLY return to ATI/AMD GPUs, but I've gotten so absorbed in the power of NVIDIA GPUs, that I haven't had an ATI/AMD GPU since my 8800GTS 512, lol