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DialgaMarine on 13 February 2014

I'm pretty sure that console users have generally accepted this fact. The only ones who haven't are the really really ignorant ones with their hopes still in teh cloudz... Now it's mostly come down to them just saying the PS4 has no games, but then again, these same people will make the same argument about the PS3 to this day. Because you know... If a library of any sort doesn't appeal to you, it simply doesn't exist... Right?



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freedquaker on 13 February 2014
FlamingWeazel said:
Thoridias said:

This is a load of crap. Honestly. What you can say with proof is that the ps4 is stronger than the Wii u, but people have been raving that their is a huge gap between xbox one and ps4 and that is a load of crap. xbox one games that are 720p is because developers took ps4 as priority. They have literally nearly the same specifications, almost exactly the same EVERYTHING. So their is no physical possible way the ps4 is considerably more powerful than the xbox one. Developers are seeing the success of the ps4 over the one and choseing to spend more time polishing and enhancing ps4 games rather than one games, thats the only reason for this

?? PS4 took priority? So the tech specs for all the world to see mean nothing? The ps4 is more powerfull period..please. The gpu and memory are a lot better on PS4..fact, more dilusions.

 

The Ps4 has 40% more compute power in its GPU, it's a higher end GPU, with more memory bandwidth on top if that. Explain how that is NOT more powerfull. I await your technical breakdown.

Explain in technical terms how there is no way the ps4 is more powerfull then x1 when in fact the hardware is much better? Please explain.

FlamingWeazel

please don't take this "40% better" crap. Who made this number up? Possibly somebody from MS to  belittle the gap in power. There is nothing on PS4 that is just 40% faster. The theoretical actual gap between PS4 and XB1 ranges between 50% and 200% (not just by 40%). That idiotic number was created after the megahertz boost to the XB1, which does only make up for the reserved power for the Kinect and Hyper-V and 2 OSes running simultaneously. PS4 has no such issues hampering its performance.

Even worse, this is the best XB1 can achieve (50+% theoretical performance gap) if the developers can get the ESRAM implementation right. As of now the gap is much larger than this due to the much faster RAM (2.5x the performance). However, this is all THEORETICAL, and none of the third party developers are pushing for the PS4 potential (which is complete opposite of what Thoridias said).

What developers are doing is develop the games on a lowest common denominator, with minor tweaks for each console.

- Try to push the resolution on XB1 to acceptable levels given the ESRAM limitations and framerate

- Try to maintain an ideal performance on PS4 with given tradeoff between frame rate and graphic fidelity

- Try to address to the maximum audience with flexible graphics settings and few driver issues.



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Cobretti2 on 13 February 2014

Why can't Sony fans accept other gamers dont really care lol. Its all about the games in the end. PS4 atm is getting the good games. If all those games were on XboX one or even Nintendo and Sony had a huge drought their power means nothing.



 

 

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lt_dan_27 on 13 February 2014

Most people have accepted that the ps4 is stronger. It's just a matter of every number being bigger. Every once in a while you see some moron try and say the xbox one just needs to be fully utilized, but no. The main argument now is how much stronger. I think the xbox one is about 50-60% the power of a ps4. Until people accept that the xbox one is at most 65% the power though, we won't stop seeing things being added to "resolutiongate." Which is the most annoying title ever IMO. It's not a scandal or cover-up, it's simple math.



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think-man on 13 February 2014

Please understand.



 

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ironmanDX on 13 February 2014
think-man said:
Please understand.

Lol.

OP: Good one. I would have named the thread Why can't "other" console fans accept the PS4 is more powerful. Some caught on and actually read the OP for a change!! This still doesn't take away from how brilliantly executed it was.



enditall727 on 14 February 2014

Good thread but what exactly are you asking, moreingrato?



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 14 February 2014
lt_dan_27 said:
Most people have accepted that the ps4 is stronger. It's just a matter of every number being bigger. Every once in a while you see some moron try and say the xbox one just needs to be fully utilized, but no. The main argument now is how much stronger. I think the xbox one is about 50-60% the power of a ps4. Until people accept that the xbox one is at most 65% the power though, we won't stop seeing things being added to "resolutiongate." Which is the most annoying title ever IMO. It's not a scandal or cover-up, it's simple math.

You gotta look at the performance XD
 PS4 barely even hits its "theoretical peak" of 1.84 gflops



lt_dan_27 on 14 February 2014
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
lt_dan_27 said:
Most people have accepted that the ps4 is stronger. It's just a matter of every number being bigger. Every once in a while you see some moron try and say the xbox one just needs to be fully utilized, but no. The main argument now is how much stronger. I think the xbox one is about 50-60% the power of a ps4. Until people accept that the xbox one is at most 65% the power though, we won't stop seeing things being added to "resolutiongate." Which is the most annoying title ever IMO. It's not a scandal or cover-up, it's simple math.

You gotta look at the performance XD
 PS4 barely even hits its "theoretical peak" of 1.84 gflops


This is my new favorite reply to a comment. And I'll gladly look at the performance. Here's the officially quoted wins for the ps4. 

AC4: 1080pvs900p

CODG: 1080p vs 720p

TR: 50 fps vs 28-30fps. 

BF4: 900p vs 720p

MGS GZ: Everyone whose played it has said that the ps4 version looks substantially better. 

Most of those games have other advantages on the ps4 such as AA, textures, etc. 

And it "barely even hits 'theoretical peak' of 1.84 gflops" is just amazing for so many reasons. First of all, 1,84 gflops is super low, about 1000 times weaker than the ps4. I'll assume you meant tflops though. Anyways though, I'm really confused about what this comment means. Of course it barely reaches its peak performance, that's why it's called PEAK performance. It's not like it can go over it. Do you think the xbox one can always hit peak performance? Because it doesn't.