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Bliss on 13 February 2014
3sexty said:
Hmmm didn't we hear the same argument during the early days of the ps3 vs x360. Some Developers were saying the same sorts of things in defence of the ps3. The CELL all over again loll. How did that end up???? Virtual parity in graphics years on. HEY FANBOYS!!!!! Get a grip of reality. Developers will find clever ways to tweak the benefits of both technologies for getting the most out of them. In years to come your statements will look foolish. Yes they may be superficial difference but none all that noticeable for making fanboyish statements.

It's not a fair comparison !  360 has a more powerful GPU than PS3 one, and also 360 is more firendly to develop for !  ok, roughly they are the same 'cause the Cell in PS3 helps a lot. Here, with PS4 VS XOne, we have PS4 with a GPU with 100% more pixel fill rate, 50% more texel fill rate and ALSO easier and more friendly to develop for !!!   Simple as that.  Just a little example : "

Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes PS4 Version “Definitely Prettier,” Xbox One “Fine;” More Info Surfaces"

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/13/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-ps4-version-definitely-prettier-xbox-one-fine-more-info-surface/

 

PS: Mate, do you know what hardware is ??   PS3 and 360 are nearly identical when fully pushed; this is not the case with PS4 and One.  Can you get it ?



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FlamingWeazel on 13 February 2014

Funny Kojima says otherwise..lol. Good timing.



Dr.Grass on 13 February 2014
endimion said:
Hahaha...people still stroking their parts thinking ps4 is far superior.... Not only it isn't no matter how much it is believed to be on the paper... 50% is ridiculous, this is plastered every 6 months almost... But even if it wasn't it is about as ridiculous than comparing 2 smarphone specs on paper... Yeah one is more powerful... But 70% of the user don't give a flying fuck... 90% are incapable of truly noticing the difference... And the 10% that care and can see are probably not even playing the inferior console.... And don't get me started on the one that pretend and don't even calibrate there monitor properly....
power difference between the 2 is about as relevant than between a galaxy Sx and iPhone x.... It's truly about the software, spec difference are close to irrelevant to people that actually use them...
like I said countless of times the PS4 could be 10x more powerful and half the price I'd still be not interested... With that horrendous pad design the lack of voice and gesture command integrated and the lack of software I care about... It'd be like offering me a cheap supercomputer... Might be cool to brag about but absolutely useless for my entertainment needs...
bottom line if you are happy to push more pixel with close to 0 other gain good for you... I'm happy to be able to follow the olympics while playing and switching channels and games seamlessly and faster than ever, without ever dropping the pad...which feels it has been tailored for my hands... To each there own..


"PS4 could be 10x more powerful and half the price I'd still be not interested"

 

That's it VGChartz. I'm outta here.



3sexty on 13 February 2014
Bliss said:
3sexty said:
Hmmm didn't we hear the same argument during the early days of the ps3 vs x360. Some Developers were saying the same sorts of things in defence of the ps3. The CELL all over again loll. How did that end up???? Virtual parity in graphics years on. HEY FANBOYS!!!!! Get a grip of reality. Developers will find clever ways to tweak the benefits of both technologies for getting the most out of them. In years to come your statements will look foolish. Yes they may be superficial difference but none all that noticeable for making fanboyish statements.

It's not a fair comparison !  360 has a more powerful GPU than PS3 one, and also 360 is more firendly to develop for !  ok, roughly they are the same 'cause the Cell in PS3 helps a lot. Here, with PS4 VS XOne, we have PS4 with a GPU with 100% more pixel fill rate, 50% more texel fill rate and ALSO easier and more friendly to develop for !!!   Simple as that.  Just a little example : "

Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes PS4 Version “Definitely Prettier,” Xbox One “Fine;” More Info Surfaces"

http://www.dualshockers.com/2014/02/13/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-ps4-version-definitely-prettier-xbox-one-fine-more-info-surface/

 

PS: Mate, do you know what hardware is ??   PS3 and 360 are nearly identical when fully pushed; this is not the case with PS4 and One.  Can you get it ?

And do you realises that with 8 gb of ram with both new consoles and superior graphic processors we are talking about 15 or so times more power then the predecessors that already looked great at the end of their lives. We will probably (in fact likely) enter the territory where visual comparisons will not be that obvious to the human eye due to incredibly vast improvements. It is known that both systems will ultimately be pushing native 1080p and talk of 4k down the line. Do you honestly believe that Xbox one buyers are going to be so disadvantaged by games that are going to look fantastic in any case. Most gamers enjoy the games, Not theoretical technical advantages that probably only translate to marginal differences where the human eye is concerned. Oh and the argument re the cell, whilst you may profess that you had always known the 2 consoles 360 and ps3 where always on par graphically, fanboys at the time, similar to these arguments where sprouting compelling technical proof that the cell would chew up the 360 due to its multiple spe structure etc etc. Much like that is happening now. And look I don't profess to know much about the technical side cos I don't but many here do when in fact all they do is regurgitate what an early developer for the platform has said. Hey I recall a developer recently saying that the Xone would eventually be got the hang of for 1080p native games  at 60fps and graphics on par with the ps4 due to improved techniques by utiliisong the One's small but ultra fast esram, especially with a new software kit that will be rolled out by Microsoft for utilizing the esram. Guess what he was shot down by fanboys. Again early Developers where were saying the ps3 would produce a superior gaming experience and the lounge techies like you guys truly bought it. Developers are like us,- they too differ in opinion. I say wait a couple of years before you are so sure about the argument. Look forward to revisiting this in a couple of years. Do you get what I'm saying??



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