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Zekkyou said:
JayWood2010 said:
What i do know is that Sony had a stretch last gen that was unmatched in 2009-2011. The rest of the gen was ok for them outside of naughty dog.


I felt 2012 was a bit meh, but 2013 was pretty good from their first party. TLOU was the only "holy shit" game, but everything else was still good.

 

God of War: Ascension

Beyond Two Souls (technically second party)

Gran Turismo 6

The Last of US

Ratchet & Clank: Into the Nexus (shush, it's a first party IP :P)

Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time

 

Plus a load of great third party exclusives like Ni No Kuni.

To be honesty they should probably have been concentrating more on PS4 development in 2013, but hey ho :P Sony never have been great at launch line ups.

But yeah, 2009 - 2011 was glorious.

As i said, it was ok.  Most games they have released for the last two years has been recieved below expectations.

People want to act as if sony has some infinite library of first party games but just like Nintendo and MSFT they have staple franchises and then release games with diversity. We can act like Sly cooper, Ratchet, and Beyond is big but they appear to be no bigger than  Kameo, Viva Pinata, and State of Decay (each sold over 1m). 

Sony certainly has released some good games this generation but it is a bit of a stretch to say they have 30 "notable" franchises.  None of the big 3 has 30 "notable" franchises.  

If anybody can actually name 30 big franchises for any of the big 3 i would be highly shocked. Hell it would be hard to name 10 big time sellers.

The good news is we're in next gen now and MSFT and Sony has been gearing up with new franchises.  Of course people can argue about list wars but they both have a lot of diversity and has been getting even wider as of late(Killer Instinct, Project Spark, Quantum Break, The Order: 1886, Tearaway, Gravity Rush to name a few). Nintendo hasnt really been widening their library but they certainly have a strength when it comes to mascots.

Id prefer to focus on now and see if the games coming out are going to be good and wait for all the new ip's sony and MSFT are teasing.







       

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Still waiting for some of your earlier predictions to come true

 

give me 240fps or give me death (yours preferrably)



This threads a joke. You are taking something out of context when it's a vague claim to begin with. Request for a clarification on his show if its bothering you so much.

I'm certainly not a Playstation fan so I have no clue about it, but I seriously doubt he's speaking out of his ass. He makes claims because he's an analyst, and they are unpopular because he's a business analyst. EA and Activision have extremely unpopular views on gaming as well, but they make a lot of money in the process.

These numbers and facts are hypothetical and are being pulled out of my ass but lets say he's referring to the sum total amount of first party games from sony over the last year, 4 of them are large games, 10 of them are region locked in japan and the rest are minigames.  Maybe pachter is referring  Sony's PSN content as being pathetic when compared to their rivals in the same category and timeframe.  



4k1x3r said:
DD_Bwest said:

well if Patcher thinks they only have 30 first party games i think we can safely say any numbers we ever get from him are completely useless.

 

SCE punblished 105 PS1 games.  Im to lazy to count ps2 and 3 lol


- 136 PS2 games

- 153 PS3 games

- 10 PS4 games so far

 

Sony sure doesn't deliver on that field, them basterds...

 

EDIT: for the sake of the comparison

Microsoft:

- 58 Xbox games

- 67 X360 games

- 11 X1 games or something like that so far

 

Nintendo:

- 49 N64 games

- 57 GC games

- 77 Wii games

- 15 WiiU games

 

Total:

- Sony: 404 Games

- Microsoft: 136 Games

- Nintendo: 198 Games

- Microsoft + Nintendo: 334

 

Sony has 70 games more than those two put together. For a fairer comparison, let's take approximately the same time frame.

 

- Sony: 299 games

- Microsot: 136 games

- Nintendo: 149 games

- Microsoft + Nintendo: 285 games

 

Damn, fuck off Sony, release some games already!!

Great post but you should really include PS1/PSP/Vita games too.



 

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existenz2 said:

Still waiting for some of your earlier predictions to come true

 

give me 240fps or give me death (yours preferrably)

wishing death on someone, classy...



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existenz2 said:

Still waiting for some of your earlier predictions to come true

 

give me 240fps or give me death (yours preferrably)

This is NOT the sort of thing I'd like to read on this forum thank you very much.



 

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DarkD said:

This threads a joke. You are taking something out of context when it's a vague claim to begin with. Request for a clarification on his show if its bothering you so much.

I'm certainly not a Playstation fan so I have no clue about it, but I seriously doubt he's speaking out of his ass. He makes claims because he's an analyst, and they are unpopular because he's a business analyst. EA and Activision have extremely unpopular views on gaming as well, but they make a lot of money in the process.

These numbers and facts are hypothetical and are being pulled out of my ass but lets say he's referring to the sum total amount of first party games from sony over the last year, 4 of them are large games, 10 of them are region locked in japan and the rest are minigames.  Maybe pachter is referring  Sony's PSN content as being pathetic when compared to their rivals in the same category and timeframe.  

the problem is Pachter talks out his ass when it comes to Sony and Nintendo, i havent heard him say anything that became reality, in 2009 he stated ps3,x360 and wii were the final consoles, hes not a gamer and he makes the dumbest predicitons

 

here are some hes stated

Boderlands was "sent out to die" before its release and consequently 3+ million in sales and a sequal

- PREDICTION: March 2009, and Jul 2009, Pachter predicts "Grand Theft Auto 5" will arrive in 2010, and 2011, respectively. In December 2010, after noticing we were no closer to a "GTAV" release date, Pachter predicts "GTAV" would rear its head by 2012.
OUTCOME: No, no, and nope. Here we are in 2013, and Rockstar has yet to release the next "GTA" installment. Originally slated to release this Spring, Rockstar has since promised that we'll all have our hands on "GTAV

im not going to go and find more but what im saying is he just throws shit against the wall, hes no better then you lookin in the rumor section or a tabloid, eventually somethign will stick and be right if you throw enough on the wall.





                
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I like patcher now