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Jaywood2010 on 07 February 2014

If the game is good who cares. So tired of these pixel, fps crap. Play the game and get over it. If you dont like it then you dont like it, but my guess is, the gameplay will help with your decision much more than how the game looks.

If youre going to be a dick about graphics, get a PC




       

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FlamingWeazel on 07 February 2014
walsufnir said:
FlamingWeazel said:
sales2099 said:
FlamingWeazel said:

Since it was announced the Order was 30 fps, I saw numerous people jumping on this fact, but why? It makes zero sense, is this what the console war has come down to? The reason it was brought up before was not because 30 FPS was terrible but because when the same game was on both platforms one was 30, the other 60 and yes 60 is better, it is pretty simple to understand, so why did people latch unto 30 FPS? This is an exclusive, it would probably be 720P on x1, but that is irrelevant, it is not on x1. There is no comparison to make here.  The onyl time it has really been brought up before was in multi-plats when it is on both systems.

 

Hey your people started this whole thing. I personaly see no issue with this and arguing about frames per second is extremely petty.

No your people did last gen with 360.


And still no proof... And like carl said: Does this make it your attitude any better? Seems there is a lot of frustration that breaks out now.

proof? There are hundreds of threads from last gen and you know it, it was all over the place last gen , as comparisons and Digital foundry analysis was common place.



FlamingWeazel on 07 February 2014
g911turbo said:
walsufnir said:
FlamingWeazel said:
g911turbo said:
FlamingWeazel said:

Since it was announced the Order was 30 fps, I saw numerous people jumping on this fact, but why? It makes zero sense, is this what the console war has come down to? The reason it was brought up before was not because 30 FPS was terrible but because when the same game was on both platforms one was 30, the other 60 and yes 60 is better, it is pretty simple to understand, so why did people latch unto 30 FPS? This is an exclusive, it would probably be 720P on x1, but that is irrelevant, it is not on x1. There is no comparison to make here.  The onyl time it has really been brought up before was in multi-plats when it is on both systems.

 


First of all, nice stealth troll against the Xbox One there.  I'm SHOCKED you were banned.  Second, to answer your question, the same thing was done to Xbox exclusives too.

For example, Ryse was railed for being sub 1080p (which The Order is too, btw).  Another game, Forza, was railed for an [alleged] image quality reduction in order to maintain 1080p/60.  Both similar scenarios to The Order (meaning, a dev finding the balance between IQ, framrate, and resolution).

Fanboys will be fanboys, but it shouldn't come as a surise that it works both ways.  It's all childish IMO, and I think the Order looks great so far, but lets not pretend it's one sided bashing.

The x1 is weaker, almost all next gen multiplats that were not sports games were lower FPS or res on x1...that's a fact hardly ban worthy..please. so logic dictates a more demanding game like the order would have the same fate.

 

And here we go again... and again... and again... and again...


Exactly.  Well I answered his question, but he changed the topic at hand.  He asked why some are picking on the Order, and I gave him the reason (same was done to X1 exclusives).  

 

Somehow it became a comparison again.  Gotta love it.  Not going to bother with him anymore.

The whole thread is about why it only was brought up when it was a comparison, did you read it?



Rychussnik on 07 February 2014
g911turbo said:
Rychussnik said:
sales2099 said:
FlamingWeazel said:

Since it was announced the Order was 30 fps, I saw numerous people jumping on this fact, but why? It makes zero sense, is this what the console war has come down to? The reason it was brought up before was not because 30 FPS was terrible but because when the same game was on both platforms one was 30, the other 60 and yes 60 is better, it is pretty simple to understand, so why did people latch unto 30 FPS? This is an exclusive, it would probably be 720P on x1, but that is irrelevant, it is not on x1. There is no comparison to make here.  The onyl time it has really been brought up before was in multi-plats when it is on both systems.

 

Hey your people started this whole thing. I personaly see no issue with this and arguing about frames per second is extremely petty.


please dont lump the rest of us PS fans in with weazel...

Noted.


thank you sir. 



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fatslob-:O on 07 February 2014
Carl2291 said:
GribbleGrunger said:
Carl2291 said:
Its simply to laugh at the smug, irritating people that constantly need to remind us that the PS4 is a more powerful machine than the Xbox One and that they are for some reason better because the games they play dont really run at 30fps anymore.

Yet this game is running at 30fps.

Its simply a way for the Xbox crowd to get back at the PS crowd. Dont read too much into it, because were gonna be seeing it throughout the entire generation when X game is running at sub-60fps on PS4.

Essentially, the PS4 fanboys were doing some good old "concern trolling", and the Xbox One fanboys are now mocking the PS4 bunch.

Are they by chance the same people that constantly reminded PS3 owners about the differences for well over5 years? The only difference is the media thought it was a relevent discussion then and worthy of lowering review scores for PS3 games.

Probably. And the PS4 guys doing it now are probably the same people who were crying and complaining about it for well over 5 Years.

Its a vicious circle. Both sides are as bad as eachother. In reality they should all rise above it and enjoy the games rather than mocking someone elses potential purchase in a really pathetic way.

I couldn't possibly agree anymore with this statement.



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Kratos on 07 February 2014
fatslob-:O said:
Carl2291 said:
GribbleGrunger said:
Carl2291 said:
Its simply to laugh at the smug, irritating people that constantly need to remind us that the PS4 is a more powerful machine than the Xbox One and that they are for some reason better because the games they play dont really run at 30fps anymore.

Yet this game is running at 30fps.

Its simply a way for the Xbox crowd to get back at the PS crowd. Dont read too much into it, because were gonna be seeing it throughout the entire generation when X game is running at sub-60fps on PS4.

Essentially, the PS4 fanboys were doing some good old "concern trolling", and the Xbox One fanboys are now mocking the PS4 bunch.

Are they by chance the same people that constantly reminded PS3 owners about the differences for well over5 years? The only difference is the media thought it was a relevent discussion then and worthy of lowering review scores for PS3 games.

Probably. And the PS4 guys doing it now are probably the same people who were crying and complaining about it for well over 5 Years.

Its a vicious circle. Both sides are as bad as eachother. In reality they should all rise above it and enjoy the games rather than mocking someone elses potential purchase in a really pathetic way.

I couldn't possibly agree anymore with this statement.


Unfortunately it will never happen We will always get to hear shit about power differences, or online services, or games, or exclusivity and so on...



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RazorDragon on 07 February 2014
goopy20 said:
Carl2291 said:
Its simply to laugh at the smug, irritating people that constantly need to remind us that the PS4 is a more powerful machine than the Xbox One and that they are for some reason better because the games they play dont really run at 30fps anymore.

Yet this game is running at 30fps.

Its simply a way for the Xbox crowd to get back at the PS crowd. Dont read too much into it, because were gonna be seeing it throughout the entire generation when X game is running at sub-60fps on PS4.

Essentially, the PS4 fanboys were doing some good old "concern trolling", and the Xbox One fanboys are now mocking the PS4 bunch.

I think there are 2 kinds of people who keep bringing it up.

1. Playstation fanboys who just enjoy talking shit about the competitors platform

2. People like me who are shocked to see a 50% performance gap from a console that is $99 more expensive.

It doesn't have anything to with 30FPS being totally awful, it has to do with the difference in horsepower when both games run the same game. With a exclusive like the Order 1886 it's something completely different. They are trying to raise the bar when it comes to visual fidelity and they sacrificed 60fps to do so. Now if it turns out looking like a turd then the Xbox fanboys will have a field day. But if it really looks as good as people say, then they also need to keep in mind that it would run at 15fps on Xone under the same settings or explode and set your house on fire. 

 

 


The system is $99 more expensive because Kinect is bundled(and PS4 is actually being sold at a loss), funny that people don't seem to know that.



g911turbo on 07 February 2014
FlamingWeazel said:
g911turbo said:
walsufnir said:
FlamingWeazel said:
g911turbo said:

First of all, nice stealth troll against the Xbox One there.  I'm SHOCKED you were banned.  Second, to answer your question, the same thing was done to Xbox exclusives too.

For example, Ryse was railed for being sub 1080p (which The Order is too, btw).  Another game, Forza, was railed for an [alleged] image quality reduction in order to maintain 1080p/60.  Both similar scenarios to The Order (meaning, a dev finding the balance between IQ, framrate, and resolution).

Fanboys will be fanboys, but it shouldn't come as a surise that it works both ways.  It's all childish IMO, and I think the Order looks great so far, but lets not pretend it's one sided bashing.

The x1 is weaker, almost all next gen multiplats that were not sports games were lower FPS or res on x1...that's a fact hardly ban worthy..please. so logic dictates a more demanding game like the order would have the same fate.

 

And here we go again... and again... and again... and again...


Exactly.  Well I answered his question, but he changed the topic at hand.  He asked why some are picking on the Order, and I gave him the reason (same was done to X1 exclusives).  

 

Somehow it became a comparison again.  Gotta love it.  Not going to bother with him anymore.

The whole thread is about why it only was brought up when it was a comparison, did you read it?

Wow at you.  I'll try to make this as simple as possible by breaking YOUR OP down piece by piece.  Ready?

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1) Since it was announced the Order was 30 fps, I saw numerous people jumping on this fact, but why?

They are MS fanboys (or sarcastic people trying to give Sony fanboys a taste of their own medicince).  To be fair, Sony FBs were doing a similar thing to Microsoft exclusives as well.

2) It makes zero sense, is this what the console war has come down to?

Yes, unfortunately.

3) The reason it was brought up before was not because 30 FPS was terrible but because when the same game was on both platforms one was 30, the other 60 and yes 60 is better, it is pretty simple to understand, so why did people latch unto 30 FPS?

That's not the ONLY reason or time it was brought up.  It was also brought up for exclusives.  Ryse.  Forza. Dead Rising 3 took plenty of flak from people, including Sony FBs, for making sacrifices in the resolution and/or fps department in order to benefit IQ.

4) This is an exclusive, it would probably be 720P on x1, but that is irrelevant, it is not on x1.

Nice jab.

5) There is no comparison to make here. 

There was no comarison to make for Ryse, DR3, Forza, Titanfall.  Yet people, including but not limited to Sony FBs, continue to mock their technical tradeoffs made for better IQ / gameplay.

6) The onyl time it has really been brought up before was in multi-plats when it is on both systems.

No.  Not even close.  Brought up for exclusives too.  This concept, WHICH IS WHAT YOUR ENTIRE ORIGINAL POST IS BASED ON,  is a delusion.

 

 

Get it now?



Nem on 07 February 2014

I guess shots are fired both ways. Surely it isnt that surprising.

For me whats surprising is that the game is 30fps. We were repeatidly told that this gen was gonna be all about 1080p at 60fps, and it seems like even that cant be achieved. Surely disappointing as a whole.



Zekkyou on 07 February 2014

Because apparently some people haven't realized that most of the exclusives on both the PS4 and X1 have been 30fps since launch :P Why people have suddenly decided to jump on this one i haven't a clue.