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thismeintiel on 06 February 2014
JayWood2010 said:
fireburn95 said:
Lol that guy is probably dumber than pachter - if you can last more than 5 minutes on any of his videos you may have induced a tumour.

He isnt really wrong about what he is saying.  (He is talking about N4G)

 "If nintendo would have lost 1.1b which is over 3x more than what they lost everybody would have been talking about it, but instead nobody is talking about it."  

"The Order 1886 gets announced 30fps and  "its okay".  When microsoft announces 30fps it gets blasted."

These are both examples he uses, not mine but he is right.  He also says it isnt just the sony fanbase that does this stuff, he just believes theyre the main perpetrators of hypocricy and damage control. 

I think the difference here is that Sony announced changes that are going to fix their problems, like letting go of PC and eventually TV.  Nintendo would have given some PR talk or said "please understand."  This is why Sony's stock actually went up, not down with the news.

And to the 2nd, 30FPS is fine on an exclusive (edit: multiplats, as well), if that's what the studio aims for.  And as long as its actually stable.  However, the Xbox One is having to sacrifice resolution AND FPS to achieve visuals that are on par (quite often less so) than the PS4, most notably on multiplats.  Basically, most gamers are looking for a leap to justify their purchase and the PS4 is delivering, while making full use of their HD TVs.  It's one of the reasons the core market is flocking to Sony in a big way.



 

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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 06 February 2014

http://n4g.com/news/1450695/ps4-pushes-sonys-earnings-in-the-positive-4-2-million-ps4-sales-9-7-million-software-64-6-total

But apparently soneeEE meyd mahnii$$$

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Yay!!!

Jaywood2010 on 06 February 2014
Zekkyou said:
JayWood2010 said:

I quoted it then wondered off to get something to eat before coming back, so it prob was a little while ^^;

I agree that place can be a hell hole though. Anyway, we get to enjoy another 5 years of how doomed Sony is o/ The PS3 will be their last console after all :P


lol no big deal, i should have specified what i was talking about xD

And nah, everybody is doomed :P




       

ironmanDX on 06 February 2014
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

We really need TL:DW summaries on videos over 5 minutes... seriously..

Also, didn't Sony make money a few days ago? Like wtf... Its like both Sony and Nintendo just loses money right after they earn money....


This post just helps prove the point discussed in the video. Sony made money sure, but it lost overall. Sony is doing bad. Far worse than Nintendo and well... immeasurable compared to MS yet all the MS and Ninty bad news is EVERYWHERE. Watch the video, if only for 10 minutes.

Why does the OP say, "by JayWood"? What?!?



Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 06 February 2014
bigjon said:
Losses in Sony non gaming divisions means as much to PS4 fans as the fact Win8 sucks matter to Xbox1 fans.


The thing is, in addition to being a smaller company than MS, Sony's treasury is being depleted year after year. Therefore one can conclude that any major losses can affect every division under its umbrella.   



Yay!!!

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NintendoPie on 06 February 2014
pokoko said:
I couldn't finish the video but basically he's saying that the internet is a conspiracy for Sony.

On of his proofs is that IGN didn't put "Sony to layoff 5,000 employees" in the title of the article BUT INSTEAD in the subtitle.

Flawless logic.

Wait, I thought there was a conspiracy against Nintendo? Or was it for Microsoft...? Or was it against Sony?!



Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 06 February 2014
NintendoPie said:
pokoko said:
I couldn't finish the video but basically he's saying that the internet is a conspiracy for Sony.

On of his proofs is that IGN didn't put "Sony to layoff 5,000 employees" in the title of the article BUT INSTEAD in the subtitle.

Flawless logic.

Wait, I thought there was a conspiracy against Nintendo? Or was it for Microsoft...? Or was it against Sony?!


I think it was against Atari.



Yay!!!

gooch_destroyer on 06 February 2014

Welcome to the N.H.K everyone.



Imaginedvl on 06 February 2014
thismeintiel said:
JayWood2010 said:
fireburn95 said:
Lol that guy is probably dumber than pachter - if you can last more than 5 minutes on any of his videos you may have induced a tumour.

He isnt really wrong about what he is saying.  (He is talking about N4G)

 "If nintendo would have lost 1.1b which is over 3x more than what they lost everybody would have been talking about it, but instead nobody is talking about it."  

"The Order 1886 gets announced 30fps and  "its okay".  When microsoft announces 30fps it gets blasted."

These are both examples he uses, not mine but he is right.  He also says it isnt just the sony fanbase that does this stuff, he just believes theyre the main perpetrators of hypocricy and damage control. 

I think the difference here is that Sony announced changes that are going to fix their problems, like letting go of PC and eventually TV.  Nintendo would have given some PR talk or said "please understand."  This is why Sony's stock actually went up, not down with the news.

And to the 2nd, 30FPS is fine on an exclusive (edit: multiplats, as well), if that's what the studio aims for.  And as long as its actually stable.  However, the Xbox One is having to sacrifice resolution AND FPS to achieve visuals that are on par (quite often less so) than the PS4, most notably on multiplats.  Basically, most gamers are looking for a leap to justify their purchase and the PS4 is delivering, while making full use of their HD TVs.  It's one of the reasons the core market is flocking to Sony in a big way.

First, I hope you realized that Sony is "announcing" changes and plans to fix their problems almost every quarters? So no, it is not different and it is not because this time it "seems" to more drastic that it is a good thing. Sony is losing investors money quarters after quarters...

Second, please stop generalizing... If "most" gamers would really be looking only for that, I do not think we would have 3.4 millions Xbox One sold as of today. Even if Sony has an advantage, it is far from being "most" gamers and/or "core market" :) And Jay is right about the 30 FPS, last time I checked people were not complaining about multiplatform only (or maybe Ryse is available on another platform?), same will happen with Titanfall when we will know the FPS (if it is not 60FPS). When a game is at 30FPS on the PS4, it is very quiet and there is not a PS fans posting a thread/creating a drama every 5 minutes to talk about it like the Xbox One...

Sorry but the guy is right about the good amount of hypocricy and damage control here and there...



pokoko on 06 February 2014
NintendoPie said:
pokoko said:
I couldn't finish the video but basically he's saying that the internet is a conspiracy for Sony.

On of his proofs is that IGN didn't put "Sony to layoff 5,000 employees" in the title of the article BUT INSTEAD in the subtitle.

Flawless logic.

Wait, I thought there was a conspiracy against Nintendo? Or was it for Microsoft...? Or was it against Sony?!

You're asking too many questions.  Once you know the answers, you can never go back.

You have been warned.