Scale and zeal you cannot possibly prove or know, we are in a  world of 6 + billion people, that is ridiculous to even post. Either way you are indeed generalizing and insulting a large group of people on this site.

Yup, same here.

Also, it's funny how these kind of topics are kept open and others are shut down immediately. Nothing good ever comes out of these kinds of threads. The only thing they do, is bring out the usual suspects who will (for the most part) put forward the same petty and meaningless little arguments to it, to openly bash each other. Its one of the many reasons why I don't really bother posting here anymore.

Yeah, it is pretty funny the companining about one fanbase over the other, they all have fans that incite trouble. those that do it to see the results and those that do it just because out of spite.

Its like the way they see it

"___insert fanbase , you know what they did, they kicked me in my back, p$ssed in my cornflakes, ran over my fraking garand mother..How is your day going"

I see it really does not get to you but it does kinda make posting on many gamer centric forums kinda pointless anymore, really its like hater's of certain fanbases are more obsessed with the fan base of the other and the performance of that fan base's system than they are of the system they "like"

Cognitive_dissonance comes to mind!

some see it is "no matter what i do those people or gamer's will never change "

Generalizing the Sony fanbase is wrong, but I can say with certainty that you... yes YOU are part of the problem.

Is Sony projecting a 1.1 billion loss?

Yes.

Is that particularly bad?  

Not really, because Sony is a sick financial company, everyone was expecting at least that in the financial world.

What does matter.... is what they are doing to try and dig out of that hole.

Which, is quite a bit that looks pretty good, like spinning off their ailing tv buisness and other cash sinkholes.

If I were an analyst i'd upgrade Sony from a sell to a hold. 

Though i'd be wary of abenomics.

it's ridiculous, the last few weeks I have seen numerous same posters generalize, put down the sony fanbase... because ps4 is doing well seems some cannot handle it. Not sure why some get bannned here for saying boo, others can get away with insulting a fanbase with impunity. Every fanbase has it's abd apples, period.

Someone is on the defensive here...

1 - Yes Sony is in the red, has been for a long time, like Apple has been for a while in the late 90s

2 - Let's say for a minute Sony was to close tomorrow, Playstation would probably be spun off as its own brand or sold to recoup some of the losses the other branches occured...

3 - It's strange that the news gets burried in some way, do we have articles about how MS makes tons of profits nearly every quarters or years? Does it really matter how each company does in the short therm? does it tell us what's going to happen with their gaming division? (I think only Nintendo is a pure gaming company right now).

My take: Sony as we know it may go away, the Trinitro TVs are far behind us now, same with the original Walkman, CDs, Betamax, etc. the company still has over 140 000 employees, 80 Billion$ income, and they are still restructuring. However, they are clearly not in a position where they can take risks like MS, yet, they somehow managed to offer gamers a much better deal on their new console than MS did, offer an online subscription service that does not make the gamers feel ripped off (pay extra for access to apps and no free games on their new machine) yet Sony's gaming division makes a lot of money for them... this is what I see as a client, hopefully that will continue, because I am not looking forward to a future where the business model MS has choosen to try to impose on the industry, it's not just the DRM, it's the shameless push for paymium content, the idea that they "need" more profits while what they had was already very lucrative, if that becomes the norm, I would probably just keep my old consoles and replay old games (from all manufacturers).

I'm pretty sure you're not being serious... no you are not being serious.

Yeah, none of this stuff really bothers me at all. I went through it from 2007-Now and looking back, it was all so pointless.

I have learned all I needed to learn up to this point.

A.) Playstation fans are terrible human beings.

B.) XBox fans are always attacked and are victims of a biased internet.

C.) Nintendo fans have the best taste in games because Nintendo games are better than everyone elses.

With these simple facts in mind you can lurk and trult enjoy all these wonderful threads have to offer.

With this post you are not doing any good to the mob mentality either.