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SubiyaCryolite on 06 February 2014
Anfebious said:

So people seem to agree with the article uh? So the reason why the Vita doesn't sell at all is clearly because the consumer doesn't want the product... right? They should support it by buying more and more games!

I bet Sony doesn't have anything to do with the Vita's problems.

I think so. Sony fans down here tend to buy the Vita, and then try to sell it shortly afterwards. I find this strange because everyone here held onto and cherished their PSPs. Even as bloody video and mp3 players.I dont remember the PSP having many stand out games either though I could be wrong as I didnt follow that system.

It seems that with tablets, phones, the internet, smart TVs, and so many distractions any electronic product must have a real good hook, do the basics really damn well and of course be good value  for the general public to even want to buy it.

Could be wrong but thats how I see it regarding the Wii U and Vita.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

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DerNebel on 06 February 2014
snyps said:

i know i'm a fanboy and all but did he really just compare ZeldaHd remake to ico/gow collection remake and call that a valid criticism? wtf he's a flaming sony fanboy.

 

FROM THE ARTICLE: Here’s an example of a valid criticism: “$50 is too much for any HD remake, especially when Sony gave us HD sets with multiple games for $40 on the PS3.”

 

just look at the gamecube price on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Games-/139973/i.html?_from=R40&_sop=15&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=wind+waker+gamecube&_dcat=139973&rt=nc&LH_ItemCondition=2750

and then check out the ps2 ico price...

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Video-Games-/139973/i.html?_from=R40&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15&LH_ItemCondition=2750&_nkw=ico&_dcat=139973&Platform=Sony%2520PlayStation%25202&rt=nc

 

So aside from the fact that Windwaker is more valuable than the ps2 sets.   There was also more done to Celda than just adapting to HD such as gameplay enhancements, altered quests, added gamepad features... Clearly this article is written from someone that is not impartial.

Wow, you're doing exactly what the author said a fanboy would do, take something that deserves to be criticized and try to somehow justify it.

The fact that Wind Waker sells for that much on Ebay doesn't even come close to giving Nintendo a reason to sell the remake for $50. Also what does it matter if Nintendo did some extra stuff on the Wind Waker HD remake? It still took only 6 months to develop, they don't have to cover huge development costs for the game.

Nintendos choice to price the game at $50 is bullshit and does not need to be defended.



Anfebious on 06 February 2014
SubiyaCryolite said:
Anfebious said:

So people seem to agree with the article uh? So the reason why the Vita doesn't sell at all is clearly because the consumer doesn't want the product... right? They should support it by buying more and more games!

I bet Sony doesn't have anything to do with the Vita's problems.

I think so. Sony fans down here tend to buy the Vita, and then try to sell it shortly afterwards. I find this strange because everyone here held onto and cherished their PSPs. Even as bloody video and mp3 players.I dont remember the PSP having many stand out games either though I could be wrong as I didnt follow that system.

It seems that with tablets, phones, the internet, smart TVs, and so many distractions any electronic product must have a real good hook, do the basics really damn well and of course be good value  for the general public to even want to buy it.

Could be wrong but thats how I see it regarding the Wii U and Vita.

I think the problem lies in the company itself. The problem is Sony and Nintendo in the case of the Wii U.

Both companies did a poor job with both systems and they are clearly paying for their mistakes. The result is that no one wants the product, but it's not the customer who is wrong. It's Nintendo and Sony.



"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"

SubiyaCryolite on 06 February 2014
Anfebious said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
I don't like debating this on the internet anymore, Id rather let sales numbers do all the talking. And they do.


So who is responsible? The customer or the company?


The company, but the fans who defend them to the death are significantly more annoying



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

Anfebious on 06 February 2014
SubiyaCryolite said:
Anfebious said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
I don't like debating this on the internet anymore, Id rather let sales numbers do all the talking. And they do.


So who is responsible? The customer or the company?


The company, but the fans who defend them to the death are significantly more annoying

Of course fanboys are annoying but that is not the root of the problem.



"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"

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DerNebel on 06 February 2014
Anfebious said:
SubiyaCryolite said:


The company, but the fans who defend them to the death are significantly more annoying

Of course fanboys are annoying but that is not the root of the problem.

What in your opinion is the root of the problem of third party games selling notably worse on Nintendo consoles then? And mind you, as is shown in the article this happened on the GC as well, so the "inferior port" argument, doesn't explain it.



Anfebious on 06 February 2014
DerNebel said:
Anfebious said:
SubiyaCryolite said:


The company, but the fans who defend them to the death are significantly more annoying

Of course fanboys are annoying but that is not the root of the problem.

What in your opinion is the root of the problem of third party games selling notably worse on Nintendo consoles then? And mind you, as is shown in the article this happened on the GC as well, so the "inferior port" argument, doesn't explain it.

Nintendo of course, not it's fanbase. Nintendo fans bought third party games in the Wii, Just Dance is an example, I'm sure there are others.

The GC was not a desireable product at all. It was Nintendo's fault that people weren't drawn to it.

 



"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"

stlwtng4Dmdrxip on 06 February 2014
rutea7 said:
he makes very good points. i didnt read everything though, skipped a couple of parts here and there.
it's very loooong but well written. kudos to him!


I Agree.



sethnintendo on 06 February 2014
DerNebel said:
Anfebious said:
SubiyaCryolite said:


The company, but the fans who defend them to the death are significantly more annoying

Of course fanboys are annoying but that is not the root of the problem.

What in your opinion is the root of the problem of third party games selling notably worse on Nintendo consoles then? And mind you, as is shown in the article this happened on the GC as well, so the "inferior port" argument, doesn't explain it.

Too many damn good Nintendo games so one has a limited budget to spend on third party games.  Microsoft and Sony make system sellers but they don't make as many games as Nintendo.  So more people buying first party games means less people buying third party games.  A lot of people live on a limited budget.



Justagamer on 06 February 2014
Anfebious said:
DerNebel said:
Anfebious said:
SubiyaCryolite said:


The company, but the fans who defend them to the death are significantly more annoying

Of course fanboys are annoying but that is not the root of the problem.

What in your opinion is the root of the problem of third party games selling notably worse on Nintendo consoles then? And mind you, as is shown in the article this happened on the GC as well, so the "inferior port" argument, doesn't explain it.

Nintendo of course, not it's fanbase. Nintendo fans bought third party games in the Wii, Just Dance is an example, I'm sure there are others.

The GC was not a desireable product at all. It was Nintendo's fault that people weren't drawn to it.

 


I agree. The cube was a great machine, but it was the ugliest design ever. A purple box, with a handle..... What are they thinking sometimes?! Who the hell could take a purple handled box seriously? I loves it regardless, but had to scratch my head at the design.... And even tho I like the wiiu, the controller is basically a huge controller with a completely unnecessary screen on it. There isn't one game that screams: you need this controller. If there's one positive thing about the wiiu, it's that it is going to make Nintendo unpredictable, an unpredictable, desperate Nintendo is a good Nintendo, I think..... I hope.....