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Forums - Gaming - MGS5: Ground Zeroes 'looks slightly better on PS4 than Xbox One' – Kojima

That's pretty much the best thing he can say at this point.

Disregarding the true quality of the versions which I don't know the other responses could have been:

The Xbox One version is noticeably less powerful hurting sales on the system

The Versions are the same which reflects badly on the studio for not making the game look better on a more powerful platform.



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Justagamer said:
2008ProchargedGT said:
fallen said:
Attoyou said:
JoeFlex said:
Only slightly? The way some people talk about the "gap", I was expecting the difference to be bigger than Kelly Price before her diet.

This is a last gen port. We'll see the gap with exclusives and current gen only multiplats. we're already seeing it with 60fps vs 30fps or 1080pvs720p on ports.

Yeah, we're not gonna see a Wii-Xbox360 gap or nothing crazy but we'll see something


Actually average 51 FPS uncapped vs 30 FPS capped, since you're referring to Tomb Raider.

And only one game has a 1080P/720P split, Ghosts. All of the rest are either less difference (like 900 vs 1080) or none.

There's also nothing to support the common idea "the gap wll grow" It might just as well shrink. In fact it's commonly said PS4 is easier to program for than X1, which directly suggests the gap will shrink (programmers will tap out the easy system, faster).

As for exclusives, if the best looking PS4 exclusive is said to be Shadowfall, I dont think XB1 has much to worry about, as that game isn't particularly impressive imo. It looks good, but not that much better than X1 exclusives or even last gen really.


No. KZSF blow everything no on PC last gen out of the water. Have you played it? try harder next time

Well I do have killzone: sf, and, while it looks good, it doesn't blow anything "out of the water". I just finished tomb raider on the 360, and I was impressed by that games graphics. What I'm getting at is, the ps3/x360 best graphics make the ps2/Xbox look like crap by comparison. The ps4/x1 best graphics, at this point in time, do not make the ps360 graphics look like crap, they don't even make them look kind of bad. I remember thinking, while playing that amazing game, that the old gen still had something left in it, and shouldn't have been replaced yet, because anything being done on the ps4/x1 could be done on the ps360. So no, the graphics in any of the next gen don't blow everything out of the water, not by a long shot, not yet.... 

I believe the best looking game from last gen was the last of us and while at the time was amazing looking it just dosent hold a candle to KZSF. the art is opinion based i give you that but from a technical stand point KZSF wouldnt run on a 360 ps3 and wii combined so i guess we just have to agree to disagree



Darth Tigris said:

Someone needs to look up the definition of levemente before trolling ...

Trolling?

BTW slightly is just a kind of damage controle word... if even the magazine said it is perceptible than it can't be slightly... one hardware more powerful than the other... so the other is weak.



2008ProchargedGT said:
Justagamer said:
2008ProchargedGT said:
fallen said:
Attoyou said:
JoeFlex said:
Only slightly? The way some people talk about the "gap", I was expecting the difference to be bigger than Kelly Price before her diet.

This is a last gen port. We'll see the gap with exclusives and current gen only multiplats. we're already seeing it with 60fps vs 30fps or 1080pvs720p on ports.

Yeah, we're not gonna see a Wii-Xbox360 gap or nothing crazy but we'll see something


Actually average 51 FPS uncapped vs 30 FPS capped, since you're referring to Tomb Raider.

And only one game has a 1080P/720P split, Ghosts. All of the rest are either less difference (like 900 vs 1080) or none.

There's also nothing to support the common idea "the gap wll grow" It might just as well shrink. In fact it's commonly said PS4 is easier to program for than X1, which directly suggests the gap will shrink (programmers will tap out the easy system, faster).

As for exclusives, if the best looking PS4 exclusive is said to be Shadowfall, I dont think XB1 has much to worry about, as that game isn't particularly impressive imo. It looks good, but not that much better than X1 exclusives or even last gen really.


No. KZSF blow everything no on PC last gen out of the water. Have you played it? try harder next time

Well I do have killzone: sf, and, while it looks good, it doesn't blow anything "out of the water". I just finished tomb raider on the 360, and I was impressed by that games graphics. What I'm getting at is, the ps3/x360 best graphics make the ps2/Xbox look like crap by comparison. The ps4/x1 best graphics, at this point in time, do not make the ps360 graphics look like crap, they don't even make them look kind of bad. I remember thinking, while playing that amazing game, that the old gen still had something left in it, and shouldn't have been replaced yet, because anything being done on the ps4/x1 could be done on the ps360. So no, the graphics in any of the next gen don't blow everything out of the water, not by a long shot, not yet.... 

I believe the best looking game from last gen was the last of us and while at the time was amazing looking it just dosent hold a candle to KZSF. the art is opinion based i give you that but from a technical stand point KZSF wouldnt run on a 360 ps3 and wii combined so i guess we just have to agree to disagree

Look at what it's pushin on old hardware! Technically, not art, it looks phenomenal. The areas are large, the foliage and detail is pretty amazing. And, look at the definitive edition. It's a game that is better than the ps360 versions, but not leagues above. The ps360 run at 720p, and pretty detailed to boot. The ps4 version is 1080p, with a few extra effects, and higher res textures, and jumps around from 30-55 fps... Pushing an old game like that should've easily been able to do all of the above at a solid 60 fps.... I know some is programmers, but, I also think it has a lot to do with the fact that this generation is the smallest jump from one to the other, ever. I'm not disappointed with my ps4, I'm disappointed in the entire generational jump. Sony and ms say their consoles are a 16x power increase, I say not even close. The ps360 were something like 300gflops, 16x that is 4.8tflops.... That would have been a jump, not the theoretical 1.8 of ps4, and certainly not the 1.3 of x1. Sigh..... Sorry man, I didn't mean to go on like this, maybe I'm just expecting too much these days....



ethomaz said:

Darth Tigris said:

Someone needs to look up the definition of levemente before trolling ...

Trolling?

BTW slightly is just a kind of damage controle word... if even the magazine said it is perceptible than it can't be slightly... one hardware more powerful than the other... so the other is weak.

He might just be getting upset because of a language issue.

Saying the XBONE is "weak" could be taken as meaning it's weak for a next gen console.

Saying the XBONE is "weaker" just means the PS4 is stronger. It's almost impossible for this one to be interpreted as trolling.



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Why did he give the Bone version the best exclusive content then?



ryuzaki57 said:
Why did he give the Bone version the best exclusive content then?

Who decided this?



Great news, Its good to know the better versions of games will end up in my console of preference



Somini said:
ryuzaki57 said:
Why did he give the Bone version the best exclusive content then?

Who decided this?


Old Raiden > Young Snake



Somini said:
ryuzaki57 said:
Why did he give the Bone version the best exclusive content then?

Who decided this?

Don't know, it seemed to be the general consensus