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Max King of the Wild said:
TheSting said:

The mere mention that someone is getting an Xbox One is making some of these posters hot as fuck. Is this why some of you got into gaming? This is quite ridiculous 


the mere mention of maybe educating people on some of the difference between the two consoles that people outside of the forum world might not know about is making some posters hot as fuck. quite ridiculous

The guilty speak. How do you know they are not educated? How man? Is it because they did not buy the PS4? You are on a rampage assuming people dont know shit. What you are trying to say is because they dont prefer the PS4 they are uneducated. Careful you dont fall off that horse the landing will be rough. They are having fun which is all that matters. Or will you say that ppl are not having fun playing the xbox.



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kupomogli said:
Darth Tigris said:

Just as Sony isn't doing everything the same as they did last gen, neither is Microsoft. The repeated comments about the future game prospects being better for the PS4 is just wishful thinking for the Sony faithful. We have no idea which console will have the better or more diverse lineup in 3 or 5 years time. In fact, we have no idea which games will turn out to be great either. There are factors that make it more likely, but that's it.

So choosing a launch system because of launch games ISN'T stupid. If you're going to buy it at launch then you obviously want to enjoy it at launch. If not, you would just wait. There's nothing wrong with what S.T.A.G.E.'s dormmates are doing here. In fact, it shows how the normal world outside of these nutty forums behaves.

Other than hyping up indies non stop, which is Sony as usual being late for the party and hyping up something which popular has come and mostly has gone, and not creating an overpriced system, what is Sony actually doing different?

Here's a side by side comparison about how the first year looks like it's going to turn out for PS4 and how it turned out for the PS3.

-2006:  Resistance 2013:  Killzone Shadow Fall
-2006:  Genji Days of the Blade 2013:  Knack
-2006:  Untold Legends Dark Kingdom  2013:  Resogun
-2006:  NBA 08

-Early 2007:  Motorstorm Early 2014:  Drive Club  (Same dev too.)
-Early 2007:  Formula One Championship  Early 2014 Infamous Second Son
-Early 2007:  MLB The Show Early 2014:  MLB The Show

-Late 2007:  The Eye of Judgment  Late 2014:  Some Move game.  Maybe.
-Late 2007:  SingStar
-Late 2007:  NBA 08
-Late 2007:  Uncharted  Late 2014:  The Order 1866
-Late 2007:  Working on The Last Guardian.  Late 2014:  Working on The Last Guardian

Uncharted was confirmed to be pushed back to 2015.

Sony, just like last gen, even more so than last gen, is pretty much doing nothing.  They're instead putting all their effort on PS3 games, just like they did the previous gen with PS2 games.  The same year the PS3 came out, many big first party games were released, after the PS3 launched, many big first party PS2 released.  The exact same thing goes for the PS4 and PS3. 

This doesn't mean that Microsoft is going to do the same and stop supporting the Xbox One as much in the next few years, but I just wanted to point out that Sony is pretty much doing the exact same as they've done last gen.  It took them over a year to start actually supporting the system. 

However, if you take into the account that Microsoft is paying for exclusives, just like they did at the beginning of last gen.  I'm sure it 's a lot of money to pay for exclusives as the publisher probably wants to make the same amount of money they'd make on the other console plus development costs.  So for each exclusive that they're purchasing, they're probably losing money if it doesn't meet the estimated numbers.  If it does reach estimated numbers, they don't make much at all, it just gets people interested in the console.  In that sense, Microsoft may still do the same.  Stop paying for exclusives and just release Halo, Gears, Forza, and Fable every year.


When exactly did Uncharted get confirmed as being pushed back from a release date it never had?



Vasto said:
enditall727 said:
Vasto said:

 

What critical flops?


Critical acclaim

 

Power Star Golf

Ryse

Zoo Tycoon

Crimson Dragon

and that bike game

 

 

From what I have heard from people here who bought those games they are enjoying them. I have not heard anything about the bike game though.

On that list I have bought Ryse at launch and recently got Crimson Dragon and Power Star Golf on sale for $15 each from Xbox Live Marketplace.


I forgot Halo Spartan Assault and the bike game was Lococycle.

 

I'm not saying that people cant enjoy them or anything but they just flopped critically(critical acclaim) like Knack did on PS4.



TheSting said:
Max King of the Wild said:
TheSting said:

The mere mention that someone is getting an Xbox One is making some of these posters hot as fuck. Is this why some of you got into gaming? This is quite ridiculous 


the mere mention of maybe educating people on some of the difference between the two consoles that people outside of the forum world might not know about is making some posters hot as fuck. quite ridiculous

The guilty speak. How do you know they are not educated? How man? Is it because they did not buy the PS4? You are on a rampage assuming people dont know shit. What you are trying to say is because they dont prefer the PS4 they are uneducated. Careful you dont fall off that horse the landing will be rough. They are having fun which is all that matters. Or will you say that ppl are not having fun playing the xbox.


Because forum dwellers like ourselves are a tiny minority. And having a "unanimous" decision just doesnt happen. Sports games, price, multiplats ect ect are more important to some than others. Now simma down now. Love how when people hype games like puppetteer and the game barely sells in the real world but has a huge following on forums its because we are a tiny minority. but when its about deciding a console everyone knows whats what lol. Also read the OP, "I didnt even need to bring up Titanfall." Im sure it wasnt brought up nor was what i mentioned. stop being so whiny and defensive



Raven722 said:


When exactly did Uncharted get confirmed as being pushed back from a release date it never had?

Error on my part, there was no confirmation.  Amazon changed their expected release date from 2014 to 2015 which usually means they got information from the publisher.  Not like many people thought it would release 2014 anwyays.  We just found out it existed late last year.  My assumption was late 2015, possibly even 2016. 

I'll edit the that part out of my post.



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enditall727 said:
Vasto said:
enditall727 said:
Vasto said:
enditall727 said:
Darth Tigris said:

Just as Sony isn't doing everything the same as they did last gen, neither is Microsoft. The repeated comments about the future game prospects being better for the PS4 is just wishful thinking for the Sony faithful. We have no idea which console will have the better or more diverse lineup in 3 or 5 years time. In fact, we have no idea which games will turn out to be great either. There are factors that make it more likely, but that's it.

So choosing a launch system because of launch games ISN'T stupid. If you're going to buy it at launch then you obviously want to enjoy it at launch. If not, you would just wait. There's nothing wrong with what S.T.A.G.E.'s dormmates are doing here. In fact, it shows how the normal world outside of these nutty forums behaves.


It's logical thinking. 

 

X1 has more games at launch but it also has more critical flops. This comes with the territory of trying to make diverse games like Sony. Sony always had a flop or 2 and they chopped down on those studios for the most part after awhile.

 

We know that Sony can pull ahead. And the games that are most talked about right now on X1 are 3rd party games that were supposed to be on PS4( Dead Rising and Titanfall)

 

So i would argue that it's just logical reasoning that Sony will eventually pull ahead from what we know

 

We'll just have to wait and see

 

What critical flops?


Critical acclaim

 

Power Star Golf

Ryse

Zoo Tycoon

Crimson Dragon

and that bike game

 

 

From what I have heard from people here who bought those games they are enjoying them. I have not heard anything about the bike game though.

On that list I have bought Ryse at launch and recently got Crimson Dragon and Power Star Golf on sale for $15 each from Xbox Live Marketplace.


I forgot Halo Spartan Assault and the bike game was Lococycle.

 

I'm not saying that people cant enjoy them or anything but they just flopped critically(critical acclaim) like Knack did on PS4.


I see what you mean now. Thats why I dont go by review sites but would rather hear from actual people who bought the game. Would love to have a website that had user reviews but only from verified people who actually bought the game. If I had a PS4 I would probaly buy Knack also regardless of what they say. Game looks kinda fun.



ironmanDX said:
F0X said:
MS might win in terms of exclusives right now, but do your dormmates care which console has the superior versions of multiplat games?

He did say they all had PS3's.

 

So, no.


I figured as much. Sony should know by now that having the most powerful hardware on the market... does not equate to dominance in the market. :P

Other factors may prevent Xbox One from outselling PS4 now and in the future, but as it stands, Sony has work to do if Microsoft is to crushed in North America.



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@enditallRyse has sold 720 units so far considering the install base is only 3.2 million. I think thats pretty good sales for a game at teh start of a new consoles,, so its hardly aflop. Plus it did pretty well depsite all the negative reviews as well. Heck it did better then knack which only sold 510k with an install base of 4.7 million lol



Forgot to add in my above comment,, ryse is only available in 13 countries whereas knack is available in 53 countries. is taht a flop now?



kupomogli said:
Raven722 said:


When exactly did Uncharted get confirmed as being pushed back from a release date it never had?

Error on my part, there was no confirmation.  Amazon changed their expected release date from 2014 to 2015 which usually means they got information from the publisher.  Not like many people thought it would release 2014 anwyays.  We just found out it existed late last year.  My assumption was late 2015, possibly even 2016. 

I'll edit the that part out of my post.


No problem. I just didn't know if they had said something since clearing up a misconception and there seem to be a lot of people who think a release date was announced.