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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - Wii U 'Quick Boot Update' basically a bait and switch /smoke and mirrors

MDMAlliance on 30 January 2014
VitroBahllee said:

In theory - but I just hit the button on my Wii U at the same time as in the video and then pressed 'start' on a game icon as soon as that came up, and then did the whole process again for good measure. The game in the simulation was running LESS THAN FIVE SECONDS faster in the video than it was on my Wii U. What's the big deal with this? Showing off ANYTHING else would have been better.

N64 for VC. GBA for 3DS VC. I don't know. Not showing it at all would have been better, as giving me five extra seconds if I boot up in a different order seems like they are just trying to come up with something positive for the sake of something positive. It suggests they have hit a brick wall with the OS load speed and they're looking to do anything they can to come up with the promised improvements.

I'm okay with the Wii U OS being so spartan, but I would like it to work faster if it's going to be so spartan. If it's not actually going to work faster, then don't change the order of things around to save 5 seconds and call it 'Quick Boot.' Hell, calling it 'Quick Launch' for games would have made it more palatable, but acting like this is the earlier promised speed enhancements just rankles.


Let's be fair, the video presses those buttons rather slowly to begin with.  Also, it's possible that what someone else saying it being just a simulator could be true and that it actually runs faster in practice.  Of course there's no way to confirm that right now, but either way it IS faster as a step is definitely being cut.  We can argue how much that few second difference makes, but the fact that it only takes like 30-40 seconds to do the whole process to begin with, a few seconds is more than it seems.



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VitroBahllee on 30 January 2014
MDMAlliance said:
VitroBahllee said:

In theory - but I just hit the button on my Wii U at the same time as in the video and then pressed 'start' on a game icon as soon as that came up, and then did the whole process again for good measure. The game in the simulation was running LESS THAN FIVE SECONDS faster in the video than it was on my Wii U. What's the big deal with this? Showing off ANYTHING else would have been better.

N64 for VC. GBA for 3DS VC. I don't know. Not showing it at all would have been better, as giving me five extra seconds if I boot up in a different order seems like they are just trying to come up with something positive for the sake of something positive. It suggests they have hit a brick wall with the OS load speed and they're looking to do anything they can to come up with the promised improvements.

I'm okay with the Wii U OS being so spartan, but I would like it to work faster if it's going to be so spartan. If it's not actually going to work faster, then don't change the order of things around to save 5 seconds and call it 'Quick Boot.' Hell, calling it 'Quick Launch' for games would have made it more palatable, but acting like this is the earlier promised speed enhancements just rankles.


Let's be fair, the video presses those buttons rather slowly to begin with.  Also, it's possible that what someone else saying it being just a simulator could be true and that it actually runs faster in practice.  Of course there's no way to confirm that right now, but either way it IS faster as a step is definitely being cut.  We can argue how much that few second difference makes, but the fact that it only takes like 30-40 seconds to do the whole process to begin with, a few seconds is more than it seems.


Wel, I definitly don't feel like arguing this relatively minor point any more. 

So I guess I'll concede there's a CHANCE that this will matter to anyone, that there's a POSSIBILITY it will help Wii U hardware or software sales, that it's CONCEIVEABLE they made a demonstration video that took ten seconds longer than the actual tech they developed, and that it isn't OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF POSSIBILITY that a five second improvement on the boot time will make up for the other shortcomings the Wii U is facing.

I don't really believe any of those points, but sure... it's possible. I guess. 

To quote Forrest, Forrest Gump: 'That's all I have to say about that.'



MDMAlliance on 30 January 2014
VitroBahllee said:
MDMAlliance said:
VitroBahllee said:

In theory - but I just hit the button on my Wii U at the same time as in the video and then pressed 'start' on a game icon as soon as that came up, and then did the whole process again for good measure. The game in the simulation was running LESS THAN FIVE SECONDS faster in the video than it was on my Wii U. What's the big deal with this? Showing off ANYTHING else would have been better.

N64 for VC. GBA for 3DS VC. I don't know. Not showing it at all would have been better, as giving me five extra seconds if I boot up in a different order seems like they are just trying to come up with something positive for the sake of something positive. It suggests they have hit a brick wall with the OS load speed and they're looking to do anything they can to come up with the promised improvements.

I'm okay with the Wii U OS being so spartan, but I would like it to work faster if it's going to be so spartan. If it's not actually going to work faster, then don't change the order of things around to save 5 seconds and call it 'Quick Boot.' Hell, calling it 'Quick Launch' for games would have made it more palatable, but acting like this is the earlier promised speed enhancements just rankles.


Let's be fair, the video presses those buttons rather slowly to begin with.  Also, it's possible that what someone else saying it being just a simulator could be true and that it actually runs faster in practice.  Of course there's no way to confirm that right now, but either way it IS faster as a step is definitely being cut.  We can argue how much that few second difference makes, but the fact that it only takes like 30-40 seconds to do the whole process to begin with, a few seconds is more than it seems.


Wel, I definitly don't feel like arguing this relatively minor point any more. 

So I guess I'll concede there's a CHANCE that this will matter to anyone, that there's a POSSIBILITY it will help Wii U hardware or software sales, that it's CONCEIVEABLE they made a demonstration video that took ten seconds longer than the actual tech they developed, and that it isn't OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF POSSIBILITY that a five second improvement on the boot time will make up for the other shortcomings the Wii U is facing.

I don't really believe any of those points, but sure... it's possible. I guess. 

To quote Forrest, Forrest Gump: 'That's all I have to say about that.'


I wasn't saying this would make Wii U sales better.  But I do see people who already own a Wii U being happy about it.



DevilRising on 30 January 2014

I don't think that's what it will be at all. What it will likely be, is a small list of your most used programs/games, that the system will essentially have pre-loaded, that you can jump right into, instead of waiting for the entire OS to boot up. Honestly, waiting 20 seconds for the OS to boot is no big deal, so anyone calling this "smoke and mirrors" is being kind of silly.



VitroBahllee on 30 January 2014

Okay, I just have to add. From the translation, in Iwata's own words:

"We think that this function will make you feel that the time to start up a Wii U software title is cut by more than 50 percent, and that it will also lead to more Wii U users understanding the appealing nature of the GamePad."

So the idea of the person above, mentioning the addition of mirrors to the elevator hallways giving people something to do so lessening the complaints about elevator speed, or my comparison to crosswalk buttons that don't actually do anything aside from give the person waiting some sense of agency are accurate.

This validation of my original point will stand as my final word on this subject.



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Gnac on 30 January 2014

Reading this thread, I get the image of someone repeatedly smashing the button for the floor they want because their ADHD is far worse than mine.



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