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sales2099 said:
ArmGunar said:
GG Guerrilla !

Well deserved :)

k I know I am me and I reaaaally don't wanna be that guy now, but principle dictates me to say this.

Killzone SF isn't on the same level critically as KZ 3 and especially not KZ2 (the best of the IP by far). Yet it is selling at a faster pace, most likely due to being the sole launch exclusive worth getting.

Now this is great for the developers, no doubt about that. It is like a fresh start to expand upon as PS4 grows. But as fans of the IP....should you really be encouraging this? It is like celebrating COD sales every year, even though the meta score gets lower and lower. Ideally, we should reward quality that also sells amazing.

(if I behave like this when a X1 game scores lower yet sells higher, feel free to call me out whomever reads this).


^I like this guy



sales2099 said:
ArmGunar said:
GG Guerrilla !

Well deserved :)

k I know I am me and I reaaaally don't wanna be that guy now, but principle dictates me to say this.

Killzone SF isn't on the same level critically as KZ 3 and especially not KZ2 (the best of the IP by far). Yet it is selling at a faster pace, most likely due to being the sole launch exclusive worth getting.

Now this is great for the developers, no doubt about that. It is like a fresh start to expand upon as PS4 grows. But as fans of the IP....should you really be encouraging this? It is like celebrating COD sales every year, even though the meta score gets lower and lower. Ideally, we should reward quality that also sells amazing.

(if I behave like this when a X1 game scores lower yet sells higher, feel free to call me out whomever reads this).

 

why are you encouraging microsoft to let 343 handle halo when halo 4the lowest scroing mainline halo game? they obviously arent up to the task and we shouldnt reward them with your purchase. 



bananaking21 said:
sales2099 said:
ArmGunar said:
GG Guerrilla !

Well deserved :)

k I know I am me and I reaaaally don't wanna be that guy now, but principle dictates me to say this.

Killzone SF isn't on the same level critically as KZ 3 and especially not KZ2 (the best of the IP by far). Yet it is selling at a faster pace, most likely due to being the sole launch exclusive worth getting.

Now this is great for the developers, no doubt about that. It is like a fresh start to expand upon as PS4 grows. But as fans of the IP....should you really be encouraging this? It is like celebrating COD sales every year, even though the meta score gets lower and lower. Ideally, we should reward quality that also sells amazing.

(if I behave like this when a X1 game scores lower yet sells higher, feel free to call me out whomever reads this).

 

why are you encouraging microsoft to let 343 handle halo when halo 4the lowest scroing mainline halo game? they obviously arent up to the task and we shouldnt reward them with your purchase. 

See I tried to word my post as politely as I could and got some very reasonable responses from people that normally love to rip into me; you just had to drip passive aggressive into this

Technically, Halo 4 sold below Halo Reach and Halo 3, the other mainline Halo's this gen. So I don't exactly know your angle here since that counters the very point you are trying to make.

Not that I have to tell you, but they improved upon the lore/stroytelling aspect and suffered at MP, hence the drop. They since claimed to listen to feedback and actually staffed up on their multiplayer team, so that is cause to support them. But I am a lore Halo fan first and foremost, and that is where they shined.

But it all comes back to Halo 4 not selling as much as Reach or 3, thus your connection with Halo and KZ isn't there. Plus, correct me if im wrong, but KZ fans aren't exactly as into the lore as Halo fans are. This is neither here or there, but I hope I answered you.



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Doubt it's that close. There's probably hundreds of thousands of digital copies sitting on the servers.



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sales2099 said:
bananaking21 said:

why are you encouraging microsoft to let 343 handle halo when halo 4the lowest scroing mainline halo game? they obviously arent up to the task and we shouldnt reward them with your purchase. 

See I tried to word my post as politely as I could and got some very reasonable responses from people that normally love to rip into me; you just had to drip passive aggressive into this

Technically, Halo 4 sold below Halo Reach and Halo 3, the other mainline Halo's this gen. So I don't exactly know your angle here since that counters the very point you are trying to make.

Not that I have to tell you, but they improved upon the lore/stroytelling aspect and suffered at MP, hence the drop. They since claimed to listen to feedback and actually staffed up on their multiplayer team, so that is cause to support them. But I am a lore Halo fan first and foremost, and that is where they shined.

But it all comes back to Halo 4 not selling as much as Reach or 3, thus your connection with Halo and KZ isn't there. Plus, correct me if im wrong, but KZ fans aren't exactly as into the lore as Halo fans are. This is neither here or there, but I hope I answered you.


drip passive aggressivness? no i didnt, i was just being reasonable and im pretty relaxed actually.  i havent bothered to even read anything after that bolded line. my point stands, and it shows the mega flaw in your logic. 



sales2099 said:
ArmGunar said:
GG Guerrilla !

Well deserved :)

k I know I am me and I reaaaally don't wanna be that guy now, but principle dictates me to say this.

Killzone SF isn't on the same level critically as KZ 3 and especially not KZ2 (the best of the IP by far). Yet it is selling at a faster pace, most likely due to being the sole launch exclusive worth getting.

Now this is great for the developers, no doubt about that. It is like a fresh start to expand upon as PS4 grows. But as fans of the IP....should you really be encouraging this? It is like celebrating COD sales every year, even though the meta score gets lower and lower. Ideally, we should reward quality that also sells amazing.

(if I behave like this when a X1 game scores lower yet sells higher, feel free to call me out whomever reads this).

This, coming from the guy who downplayed GT5 when it sold better than Forza 3 because Forza 3 meta'd better.....but also downplayed Uncharted 2 when it meta'd better than GoW2 because GoW2 sold better

As noble as your post is, factoring in the kind of posts you've made in the past, I know this is just a veiled attempt to undercut the success of Shadow Fall. You're just being somewhat subtle and "objective" about it



i dont have or do twitter, did anybody ask them if this is shipped or sold?



 

BMaker11 said:
sales2099 said:
ArmGunar said:
GG Guerrilla !

Well deserved :)

k I know I am me and I reaaaally don't wanna be that guy now, but principle dictates me to say this.

Killzone SF isn't on the same level critically as KZ 3 and especially not KZ2 (the best of the IP by far). Yet it is selling at a faster pace, most likely due to being the sole launch exclusive worth getting.

Now this is great for the developers, no doubt about that. It is like a fresh start to expand upon as PS4 grows. But as fans of the IP....should you really be encouraging this? It is like celebrating COD sales every year, even though the meta score gets lower and lower. Ideally, we should reward quality that also sells amazing.

(if I behave like this when a X1 game scores lower yet sells higher, feel free to call me out whomever reads this).

This, coming from the guy who downplayed GT5 when it sold better than Forza 3 because Forza 3 meta'd better.....but also downplayed Uncharted 2 when it meta'd better than GoW2 because GoW2 sold better

As noble as your post is, factoring in the kind of posts you've made in the past, I know you're just trying to undercut the success of Shadow Fall by being somewhat subtle and "objective" about it

You got me. But those games released more then 3 years ago. I would like to think my thoughts and opinions have matured somewhat since then. If I do this behavior going forward, please call me out.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

bananaking21 said:
sales2099 said:
bananaking21 said:

why are you encouraging microsoft to let 343 handle halo when halo 4the lowest scroing mainline halo game? they obviously arent up to the task and we shouldnt reward them with your purchase. 

See I tried to word my post as politely as I could and got some very reasonable responses from people that normally love to rip into me; you just had to drip passive aggressive into this

Technically, Halo 4 sold below Halo Reach and Halo 3, the other mainline Halo's this gen. So I don't exactly know your angle here since that counters the very point you are trying to make.

Not that I have to tell you, but they improved upon the lore/stroytelling aspect and suffered at MP, hence the drop. They since claimed to listen to feedback and actually staffed up on their multiplayer team, so that is cause to support them. But I am a lore Halo fan first and foremost, and that is where they shined.

But it all comes back to Halo 4 not selling as much as Reach or 3, thus your connection with Halo and KZ isn't there. Plus, correct me if im wrong, but KZ fans aren't exactly as into the lore as Halo fans are. This is neither here or there, but I hope I answered you.


drip passive aggressivness? no i didnt, i was just being reasonable and im pretty relaxed actually.  i havent bothered to even read anything after that bolded line. my point stands, and it shows the mega flaw in your logic. 

....no it doesn't stand. I addressed your point in the very post.

To simplify, Halo 4 sold below Reach and Halo 3, the other mainline entries, thus immediately invalidating your counter argument.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.