Egann said:
spemanig said:
Egann said:
spemanig said:
Egann said:
The real problem is that Nintendo (as always) overvalued their IP. Mario just doesn't sell home consoles, anymore, but the damage is basically done.
The Wii U definitely needs some marketing presence. It is practically invisible compared to the PS4 and XBox One. ADVERTISE.
Also, I would double down on Zelda U and X. These are literally the games which can save your console. They need to be awesome and they need to be out.
A Majora's Mask remake would also be a good idea, although personally I would go the Oracles of Ages/ Seasons route and make it clear this is a parallel game, not a remake. There is, after all, precedence in the Zelda series for parallel adventures. From there...go nuts. This is THE M rated Zelda game people will talk about for the rest of time. No sex or cursing, but there will be gore, death, and a host of disturbing images.
Disturbing like there are some VERY hard sidequests, and if you fail you see Cremia, Romani, Kafei, or other NPC die a horrible death or live with a haunting curse for the rest of the cycle.
Oh, and difficulty increases randomly after you return to the beginning a few times, you see a montage of your own failures as you save while Majora laughs at you, and if you want to not see a grave or a sad ending at the credits, you have to complete the whole Bomber's Notebook in ONE CYCLE before confronting the final boss.
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You clearly don't understand why people like Zelda.
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No. I understand why people like Majora's Mask.
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If you honestly think "THE M rated Zelda game people will talk about for the rest of time. No sex or cursing, but there will be gore, death, and a host of disturbing images." is why people like Majora's Mask, then you very clearly do not.
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Majora's Mask was a success because it had atmosphere. The original had plenty of disturbing images in it's own right--tell me seeing Romani get abducted by aliens or showing up two days later LOBOTOMIZED isn't disturbing!--and Miaku's death had as much gore to it as the Ocarina engine could support without making him look like a monster.
What I'm saying is that a straight-up remake with todays graphics would probably wind up with a T rating already.
The thing is...Majora's Mask really didn't do too good a job using the atmosphere it was building. It makes perfect sense for an RPG punishing you for failing a sidequest by killing an NPC, but it doesn't make that much sense in Zelda. There just aren't enough sidequests for failure to be a reasonable option, so difficulty goes out the window. Majora's Mask is the exception specifically because you can go back and try again as many times as you want.
In Majora's Mask it makes perfect sense to see a montage of your failures when you save to drive home that Link is failing, it makes perfect sense to make enemies tougher after several saves because the player should have learned their patterns, and it makes perfect sense that if you don't complete every major NPC's sidequest before fighting the boss, they still meet their unpleasant end in the credits. None of that would ever make sense for a "normal" Zelda game, and when you put that all together, the game you've got fits the M rating better than T.
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Majora's Mask was a success because it was accessable. It brought themes normally only prevelent to mature media to kids. 99% of people who played Majora's Mask played and understood it as children. The game respected gamers of all ages, like the best Zelda games do. It told you that you may be in a scary world, but it trusted you to save it. As a child, you were asked to be brave and to care for other's problems and to make responsable decisions. The game had subtlety. It didn't have to show you horrible acts of violence to let you know things weren't right. Just a face on the moon, and real people reacting genuinly to their inevitable demise. You thought Mikau's death was gorey or disturbing!? The guy got up, sang a song with his fish guitar, and vanished in light particles. Come on, dude.
There is nothing in Majora's Mask that merit's an M or T rating. So what if the game was creepy. So was the Nightmare Before Christmas. Arms fall off in that film, but it's still a kids film. A guys face is mutilated with your very hands in Bioshock: Infinite. You regularly blow people's faces off in The Last of Us. The most desturbing things in Majora's Mask are Link's mask trainsformation because he screams in agony for a second. It's not very violent. It's not gorey. There's no language. Majora's Mask today wouldn't get a T rating. E10 is already pushing it.
So again, you clearly don't understand why these games are so good. Thankfully, Aonuma does. A Link Between Worlds is proof. That being said, every 3D Zelda game with an E rating is better than the ones with a T rating. Every 3D Zelda with child Link is better than ones with only "teen" Link. I seriously hope that Zelda Wii U is Rated E again with a younger Link. Stop trying to please hardcore crybabies.
EDIT: Here are some quote's from a brilliant article called Majora's Mask - Nintendo's Fluke
(http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2009/03/27/majoras-mask-nintendos-fluke/)
"This is what bothers me about the more recent Zelda titles. Twilight Princess and Phantom Hourglass were fantastic games. The gameplay mechanics were as solid as they could possibly be. But they were unsatisfying, and I think the reason for that is that they were “safe” games. Ocarina of Time, Majora’s Mask, and Wind Waker were amazing, ambitious games that, despite sharing common gameplay mechanics, were all radically different experiences. Every Zelda game to come since then (with the slight exception of Minish Cap) has felt like a retreat to, and retread of, familiar ground."
"If this next part sounds pretentious, forgive me and bear with me a little longer. Cool? The themes of Majora’s Mask are completely reflected by its art style. On one level, Termina is similar in many ways to the more familiar Hyrule of Ocarina of Time, save for this niggling little difference. Just as Majora’s Mask is a thematically darker game than Ocarina of Time, Termina is a slightly twisted and diseased version of Hyrule. The clearest example of this is in the character and monster designs. Majora’s Mask leans a little more towards the grotesque. When Link puts on a mask, the transformation is not exactly smooth. He almost appears to be in pain as he is twisted and bent into his new shape. The game is filled with these little artistic marks, these indications that something is wrong with the world. Even the innocent townspeople smile in this way that makes them seem a little more suspicious.
The darker themes are reinforced by the color palette. Typically, a game with darker themes makes them quite literal by setting the game in a “dark” world. Even the Zelda series did this inTwilight Princess. Majora’s Mask is a little different, and therefore a little more effective. Majora’s Mask uses a darker color palette, but it doesn’t do this by turning down the brightness. Instead, it heavily focuses on harsher colors like purple, red, and green. Many areas and characters in Majora’s Mask are just as “bright” as those in Ocarina or Time, but the difference is that through their colors, they are made more alien: familiar, but a little different. Again, everything seems just a little more twisted and, by extension, a little darker."
"This actually happened back in 2000, albeit on a bit of a technicality, as Majora’s Mask was rated “E for Everyone” in the United States. But that makes this all the more poignant. Why is it that this E-rated game is more mature than the bulk of games rated Mature? It isn’t because of boobies or blood, nor is it because Link decided to take up superfluous, forced swearing as a hobby. It’s because Majora’s Mask is a game that evokes an incredibly guttural emotional reaction from the player. I don’t mean glamorized emotions like love or anger, either – the centerpieces of what would be a real “mature” title. Majora’s Mask instead evokes far more primal emotions – those of fear, anxiety, and hopelessness."
