You have the PS4 as well, right? May I ask why did you buy it? Or at least why at launch?

If Sony fans tolerate a 30 fps Killzone, Knack, and Infamous... maybe X1 fans will learn to tolerate Tomb Raider's abysmal frame rate.

I didn't like Tomb Raider on PS3, but now that I know it's 60fps on the PS4 and 30fps on the Xbox One, amazing game!!

I'm just kidding.  Running at 60fps isn't going to change what I didn't like about it.   

Why are PS4 fans crowing so much? PS4 is supposed to be 66% more powerful (at least, according to some it's much much more than that because X1 reserves huge amounts for Kinect while PS4 in their minds reserves nothing)

And you end up with one game 1080P on both, 60 on one 30 on the other, with largely the same graphics presumably on both? Wouldn't this be expected? In fact shouldn't the gap be much larger in favor of PS4? After all XBO reserves 3Gb of RAM, two CPU's, and 20% of the GPU (which is already 66% less powerful) for OS and PS4 reserves nothing for OS, right?

What is holding PS4 back then? Where is the 200+% differences we were promised?

Personally for an action game, I dont care about 60 FPS, I'd rather the XBO version run 1080/30 than say, 900/60,

Also, I will say Neogaf is running their usual spin if you look at it carefully. Eatchildren says the XBO version runs at unlocked 30, which gets up to 45 in some areas, even though he implies not often, I expect he is trying to spin it negatively for xbox, so it's probably often. Then he says PS4 is 60 but with a few dips into 50's.

So the reality is not 60 vs 30, it's an average of, lets say 37.5 (split the difference of 30 and 45 for XBO) vs say, 55 on PS4. Notice how Eatchildren tried to highlight the best case for PS4 (60) and the worst case for Xbox (30)

Anyways people said KZ Shadow Fall multiplayer was 60, but real frame testing showed it dips into the 30's at time and probably averages more like 45. So I take this with a grain of salt until we get some testing.

But I'm just glad the game is 1080P on XBO. That's priority one for me.

lol we're barely 2 months in and the difference is this visible already!

I buy all the consoles, so it was never a matter of why, but when. I planned on buying it in May, but I had the money and I knew with its demand there was no way in hell it was getting price dropped by May, so I just went for it. I still don't have any games for it now, but I plan on using it for the exclusives. Infamous looks absolultely incredible, so I get to play that even sooner. I also want to check out Knack and Killzone.

Feel free. Maybe some people have made ignorant comments, but I don't think a lot of people feel the X1 is technically equal or superior than PS4.

If some people feel resolution is a negligable difference, that's just their opinion. I wish developers would focus on keeping X1 games 60 fps instead of opting for 1080p and 30 fps.

Sam <3

Same game, same graphics, a (rumored, not confirmed) minor difference in framerate (again, Eat says it goes up to 45 on XBO amd into the 50's on PS4).

Yep, a whole 1% of people will notice this huge difference...the average person at Wal Mart will think these games are IDENTICAL.

tag for laugh