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theprof00 said:
@selnor
But there arent ten ms fans
I can name 10 just off the top of my head
Selnor
Darkrequiem
Endimion
Kirbs
Kowen
Jaywood
Nightwing or whatever his name is
Jlmurph
Sales
Seece
Darth tigris
Gergroy
Fallen
And many many more


It was a figure of speech.

Look Microsoft werent to blame on this occasion. Thats all there is to it. It wasnt Microsofts contract. We havent seen the contract between Microsoft and Machinima. The one posted online is between Machinima and their Content Providers. Im absolutely sure Microsoft push the boundries like any company. But this whole fiasco with the youtube thing was crazy stupid. It helps for people to have all the facts first.



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Did any of you defend BP when they claimed they didnt know what the contractors were doing at the oil rig?



FlamingWeazel said:
LOL, yes a company like MS would pay for advertising without having their LEGAL team scan over the contracts...Ms must think everyone is stupid. Nothing but backtracking.


I thought you were a fact based guy?  Only believe things that could be proven.  Isnt that what you said to ioi in the other thread?  You dont seem to have a problem believing microsoft is lying here without any proof.  



Carl2291 said:
bubblegamer said:
Carl2291 said:
This is pure gold after the over reaction and fake concern from some people here, trying to shit on Microsoft simply because its Microsoft.

Pure gold. Hilarious. And this is coming from a Sony guy.

Can we call it "concern trolling"? I like that. Concern trolls.


You are no Sony guy. And Microsoft found it important enough to address this issue for a reason.


Ive been a Sony guy since before you even joined this site, bubblegamer, anyone who knows anything about this community would know that

The reason Microsoft found it important enough to address, being everyone was talking shit about Microsoft.

Sorry. But I can 100% say Carl has been here for ages. He is definately a Sony fan. And a very reasonable person on this site.



fps_d0minat0r said:
Did any of you defend BP when they claimed they didnt know what the contractors were doing at the oil rig?

Its not that hard to understand. Microsoft didnt come out defending themselves. Machinima came out and was honest and said it was their contract between them and their Content Providers. Why would Microsoft be involved in another companies contracts?



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selnor1983 said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
Did any of you defend BP when they claimed they didnt know what the contractors were doing at the oil rig?

Its not that hard to understand. Microsoft didnt come out defending themselves. Machinima came out and was honest and said it was their contract between them and their Content Providers. Why would Microsoft be involved in another companies contracts?


The question how did microsoft not know about 'the other companies contracts' that benefited MS more than the 'other company'

we will never know for a fact, but I dont believe it for a second that machinima acted in the interest of MS without them knowing or benefiting in any way from it.



theprof00 said:
@selnor
But there arent ten ms fans
I can name 10 just off the top of my head
Selnor
Darkrequiem
Endimion
Kirbs
Kowen
Jaywood
Nightwing or whatever his name is
Jlmurph
Sales
Seece
Darth tigris
Gergroy
Fallen
And many many more


Lol, I am a microsoft fan?  Well, I do like xbox and will get an xbox one, but the x1 is also the only new system I dont own.  I am a fan of all three companies, or more specifically, I am a fan of gaming.  So while true that you could say I am a ms fan, I just think it is funny that I am being cast as just a ms fan.  Especially since the x1 will be the last system i buy this gen.



fps_d0minat0r said:
Did any of you defend BP when they claimed they didnt know what the contractors were doing at the oil rig?


An advertising deal on YouTube compared to a disaster that claimed lives and literally ruined nature.

Yep.

VGChartz ladies and gentlemen, VGChartz.



                            

Carl2291 said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
Did any of you defend BP when they claimed they didnt know what the contractors were doing at the oil rig?


An advertising deal on YouTube compared to a disaster that claimed lives and literally ruined nature.

Yep.

VGChartz ladies and gentlemen, VGChartz.


No.  It's comparing ignorance of action to ignorance of action.  This is the context.  Please be reasonable.



Not sure why anyone thinks Machinima would just lay down on a grenade for MS. They are a big streaming company, this damages their reputation and credibility far more than it would have MS. With MS the reaction was negative, but it was negative from people who are negative towards MS in the first place. With Machinima though, if I were an avid watcher of their videos, now I would wonder how many other deals they have set up where they don't require the provider to disclaim that it's paid promotional work.