By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo - David Jaffe (God of War) says Iwata should be allowed to fail even harder...

Nice words on Iwata by God of War director David Jaffe

here are the quotes that i find more relevant

 

- “Calling for Iwata to step down [misses] sight of what makes Nintendo great. You’d never get the Wii-type successes if you don’t allow a guy like Iwata to fail hard as well.”

- “You MUST fail if you want to grow and have new successes.”

- “...he’s certainly earned the right to fail more than he has to this point. And that’s from a gamer AND stockholder perspective. If you [want] make money, back the folks who fail properly. Failure isn’t just an option, it’s desired if the goal is big success. And investors who don’t value failure are idiots.”

- “Many thought Wii 1 was a bad move at first as well. Point is, so what it’s a bad move? Investors need to be thinking BIG PICTURE and LONG GAME with a company like Nintendo…companies that I admire are the ones that don’t only play for the short term win“

http://mynintendonews.com/2014/01/18/david-jaffe-says-iwata-should-be-allowed-to-fail/

thoughts?



Around the Network

He makes a good point but this in this day and age people only care about the "now" not the "before" or the "after"



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Pristine20 said:
He makes a good point but this in this day and age people only care about the "now" not the "before" or the "after"


Well there are certain degrees to how much someone can fail, if you fail the hardest there is no "after", it's over.



Turkish said:
Pristine20 said:
He makes a good point but this in this day and age people only care about the "now" not the "before" or the "after"


Well there are certain degrees to how much someone can fail, if you fail the hardest there is no "after", it's over.


Well, that's how Ken Kutaragi was treated so you have a point. Has Iwata really failed the hardest already though? Nintendo really hasn't lost that much and 3DS is doing very well. Wii U may still take off (see ps3) and will likely still sell decently. Isn't it a bit too early to go "off with his head"?



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

supernihilist said:

Nice words on Iwata by God of War director David Jaffe

here are the quotes that i find more relevant

 

- “Calling for Iwata to step down [misses] sight of what makes Nintendo great. You’d never get the Wii-type successes if you don’t allow a guy like Iwata to fail hard as well.”

- “You MUST fail if you want to grow and have new successes.”

- “...he’s certainly earned the right to fail more than he has to this point. And that’s from a gamer AND stockholder perspective. If you [want] make money, back the folks who fail properly. Failure isn’t just an option, it’s desired if the goal is big success. And investors who don’t value failure are idiots.”

- “Many thought Wii 1 was a bad move at first as well. Point is, so what it’s a bad move? Investors need to be thinking BIG PICTURE and LONG GAME with a company like Nintendo…companies that I admire are the ones that don’t only play for the short term win“

http://mynintendonews.com/2014/01/18/david-jaffe-says-iwata-should-be-allowed-to-fail/

thoughts?

I love your Guile sig.



Around the Network

The failure is in the marketing, not neccessarily in the console itself IMO

As a GOW and Ninty fan, I like what this guy has to say. I like that he considers Nintendo's singularity  valuable in the industry.



I predict NX launches in 2017 - not 2016

Isn't this the same guy who said they should sell to Disney?



Pristine20 said:

Well, that's how Ken Kutaragi was treated so you have a point. Has Iwata really failed the hardest already though? Nintendo really hasn't lost that much and 3DS is doing very well. Wii U may still take off (see ps3) and will likely still sell decently. Isn't it a bit too early to go "off with his head"?

 

I don't know if it could realy take off. PS3 problem was price, it is something that you can solve easily. Mass production helps, improvements in CPU/GPU yelds and redesigns. I believe Wii U concept is flawed. In the end the tablet couldn't be used in any game changing experience (like Wiimote was in Wii Sports). Because of that, in the end it is just a clumsy controller. The hardware specs are a problem that can't be solved to. It's not about the graphics, its about it losing compatibility with games done for PS4 and One (Wii U uses a different shader model, you can't use GPGPU code from PC/PS4/One on it without redesigns), so it will lose a lot of support because of that. They did it following the Wii model, but that model doesn't work anymore. If it did, Wii sales wouldn't had dropped hard after 2011.

I think they didn't want to compete directly with Sony and MS anymore, they don't believe they can just go and do a console to fight the others and prefer to try disrupting things to enter new markets. Inovation is important when it is done because you believe it will change things for better, not just by the sake of it. Because of that, I believe Iwata should leave and be replaced by someone that takes them to the right direction that is competing for real with Sony and MS. With Wii U, they just ignored them and did what they wanted. So, it won't take off. When PS4 and One receives price cuts, it will bomb harder. Iwata must leave now before Nintendo starts developing their next machine or he will destroy it to.

About 3DS, it isn't doing that good. They didn't got a profit, probably because 3DS hardware isn't sold for much of a profit. It wouldn't be a problem, but its tie-ratio is a little more than 2 games per user, down from more than 5 on DS (that was sold to a profit).



The man makes some fair points, but Iwata needs to show that he understands why the Wii U is failing and make it right. If he can't sell the Wii U AND make a profit, it's time to go. Give him one more year. If it still doesn't sell well next holiday season, fire him.



I'm on Twitter @DanneSandin!

Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

Let Iwata fail hard, maybe that will give him the push he needs to take the Wii U out of this shit hole.



"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"