I found this to be funny.

carry on.

1) Usually yes, but I think with the Wii U, Nintendo kinda like wanted to mostly make big games and is biting them in the ass, that as well as using the excuse of having problems with HD development.

2) And to clarify, Nintendo won't just kill the Wii U and leave it like that. Nintendo could reveal their next console at E3 2016 to release it early 2017. Or push the Wii U a little bit more and announce their next console at E3 2017 to release it during the holidays of 2017.

Depands really can Ninty bring in all the NIN faithfull and haw many of them are there really.  is nin faithfull good for 10 15 million.. i dont know.

Another factor is hardware costs, how fast can they drive them down.

And can they actually make or are they already making games the gamers want, enough of telling people what they want. 

I predicted early last year that the end of the Wii U support will happen on March 31st 2016, so I do agree with you :)

Did you read my first post? I say that a lot of the things I'm talking about are based on assumptions, with both the console price and the games.

1) The issue is that their "big" games like Metroid aren't mainstream enough. It isn't the fact that it costs more money but that it doesn't sell enough. If it was big budget and still sold well, it wouldn't matter. (Like Zelda)

2) So a normal 5 year cycle? 

No offense to you because you seem nice but what's the point of the thread then? Your points seem to go along with what Nintendo is already doing. You're just agreeing with them. (Sorry)

Yeah my mistake with the RAM confusion. Not all "core" gamers need to care about it. With all the new games coming out this year, its bound to spark some interest in them later into 2014. Pretend it's Sept 2014. Let's say Gamer A currently owns a PS3. Gamer A wanted to buy a PS4 earlier, but most of the games on it are also on his PS3. He sees a Wii U commercial. It show cases Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors, SSBU,and X, games he can't get anywhere else. He likes what the Wii U has to offer, but believes $300 for a 32GB Deluxe Set isn't enough for his money. This is where the Wii U Pro Set kicks in. It looks nice, has 250GB of HDD, and it will play the games he can't play on any other console for $300.00 (No bundled game(s)). By then, eShop and VC can be improved to become a great market for digital games. This is just a theory, I don't expect it to happen, but it can be a decent idea.

All is assumptions, were you making a statment or looking for a discussion ?

Im talking more games people want, not if Kart or Smash work.

1) What I'm referring to is, for the most part, make the fanbase happy. Zelda and Metroid fans have really high standards, they would never be satisifed with a small short game, and if you lose your core fanbase, you are basically done

2) It is a possibilty, although I personally don't expect a single game coming from Nintendo during most of 2017. I say 2017 because Nintendo usually likes to push things a lot, but holiday 2016 or early 2017 makes more sense.

Not really with the Wii U in particular. Securing Bayonetta 2 was a mistake (financially), "X", while it looks amazing, seems like a very expensive game to make and it probably won't make much profit (if at all), too long periods of development. I do belive they are starting to get things a little bit right, 2014 has plenty of what it looks like "small" games: DKC: TF, Yoshi's Yarn, SMT x FE, etc, and I belive they will continue this trend. And the big games I'm talking about that should release this year are MK 8 and Smash (hopefully). Doctor Luigi and NES Remix are relatively good starts. Even though is early to tell, I think they are doing the correct thing this year and they should do the same for 2015 and 2016.