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FlamingWeazel said:
jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
Titanfall is not going to be near as big as some think here.


When was the last time you saw a new IP that's a competitive multiplayer focused shooter with this much hype? Over 75 Awards before its even out with literally everyone who's played it saying its defining a new generation of fps multiplayer.


Irrelevant, Hitman absolution was the rave of e3 and won many awards how did that turn out?

It won 14 awards.. 

over 75 > 14

Irrelevant. , and just 1 example, many a game has won many awards and hype at e3 only to fizzle.............e3 hypes means squat, very few actually gamers will even be aware of that. Also, the ps4 install base will be quite bigger then x1 by the time infamous launches.

 

Lol ok, I'm gonna quote you and say "Install base often doesn't mean much."



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jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
Titanfall is not going to be near as big as some think here.


When was the last time you saw a new IP that's a competitive multiplayer focused shooter with this much hype? Over 75 Awards before its even out with literally everyone who's played it saying its defining a new generation of fps multiplayer.


Irrelevant, Hitman absolution was the rave of e3 and won many awards how did that turn out?

It won 14 awards.. 

over 75 > 14

Irrelevant. , and just 1 example, many a game has won many awards and hype at e3 only to fizzle.............e3 hypes means squat, very few actually gamers will even be aware of that. Also, the ps4 install base will be quite bigger then x1 by the time infamous launches.

 

Lol ok, I'm gonna quote you and say "Install base often doesn't mean much."

Resistance 1 over 4 million, launch title, resisatnce 2 and 3 say hi.

 

Gran turismo, every second title with a much bigger install base sells less, and on and on, hundreds of examples. Quote away. Hyped game on new system, will sell regardless of install base.

 

Also, ps4 will have a bigger install base, so I guess you admit infamous well sell more if it means so much then?



jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
Titanfall is not going to be near as big as some think here.


When was the last time you saw a new IP that's a competitive multiplayer focused shooter with this much hype? Over 75 Awards before its even out with literally everyone who's played it saying its defining a new generation of fps multiplayer.


Irrelevant, Hitman absolution was the rave of e3 and won many awards how did that turn out?

It won 14 awards.. 

over 75 > 14


That many awards based on limited hands-on time with the game. This much hype based on very little. Another game comes to mind that had a ton of hype, was said to change everything about the genre, was going to dethrone the current king and reign supreme for a long time to come, and all of that before any substantial playtime of the game could be talked about without violating an NDA. It was also published by EA. Star Wars: The Old Republic. I'm not even joking. That game was hyped so much by both fans and media personalities. There was so much going for it. Set in a beloved universe. The studio making it was known for its high quality RPGs. Offering a different way to tell a story in an MMO. Its competition was on the decline. It really looked like there was no way the game was not going to end up being a big deal.

It released, became the fastest selling MMO at the time, and then reality kicked everyone in the nuts. The game was good but it was not the new standard. It was nowhere near deserving of the hype. When people finally got to put significant time into the game without being silenced about it the complaints were loud and clear. This was not the second coming of MMO greatness. Hell, the game didn't even feel like it was ready to launch. It was one of the biggest disappointments in a long time. None of the hype and praise surrounding that game mattered once the final product was in consumer hands. So many people thought it was a sure thing. Let's try to learn a lesson from The Old Republic. If there is that much hype surrounding a game that no one has had significant time to play then you should be extremely cautious of the final product because there is a good chance the hype is artificial.

I have the game on order through Origin and I really feel like I'm taking a gamble with $60 because it seems like everytime I pre-order a game I thought was certainly going to be great I got burned. Funny enough, the last two games I pre-ordered were Rage and Killzone: Shadow Fall. Both of them FPS titles.



J_Allard said:
jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
Titanfall is not going to be near as big as some think here.


When was the last time you saw a new IP that's a competitive multiplayer focused shooter with this much hype? Over 75 Awards before its even out with literally everyone who's played it saying its defining a new generation of fps multiplayer.


Irrelevant, Hitman absolution was the rave of e3 and won many awards how did that turn out?

It won 14 awards.. 

over 75 > 14

Aaaaaand that about wraps up that argument lol


Flat wrong also, Hitman won over 40......................

 

http://hitmanabsolution.tumblr.com/post/6650573732/massive-award-shower-at-e3

 

e3 hype...is overrated and has little bearing on the long term prospects of a franchise.,



FlamingWeazel said:
J_Allard said:
jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:
Titanfall is not going to be near as big as some think here.


When was the last time you saw a new IP that's a competitive multiplayer focused shooter with this much hype? Over 75 Awards before its even out with literally everyone who's played it saying its defining a new generation of fps multiplayer.


Irrelevant, Hitman absolution was the rave of e3 and won many awards how did that turn out?

It won 14 awards.. 

over 75 > 14

Aaaaaand that about wraps up that argument lol


Flat wrong also, Hitman won over 40......................

 

http://hitmanabsolution.tumblr.com/post/6650573732/massive-award-shower-at-e3

 

e3 hype...is overrated and has little bearing on the long term prospects of a franchise.,

 

 "This brings us up to 14 won awards and hopefully we’re not done yet!" lol nominations aren't wins



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I hope it does, but sadly I don't think it will.

Damn FPS games are brutes nowadays.



FlamingWeazel said:
jlmurph2 said:
FlamingWeazel said:

Irrelevant. , and just 1 example, many a game has won many awards and hype at e3 only to fizzle.............e3 hypes means squat, very few actually gamers will even be aware of that. Also, the ps4 install base will be quite bigger then x1 by the time infamous launches.

 

Lol ok, I'm gonna quote you and say "Install base often doesn't mean much."

Resistance 1 over 4 million, launch title, resisatnce 2 and 3 say hi.

 

Gran turismo, every second title with a much bigger install base sells less, and on and on, hundreds of examples. Quote away. Hyped game on new system, will sell regardless of install base.

 

Also, ps4 will have a bigger install base, so I guess you admit infamous well sell more if it means so much then?

I don't think you see that I quoted you because I agree with the statement. But if Infamous has hype on a new system, why can't Titanfall? Because its also on PC and 360? That doesn't take any hype away from the X1 owners.



It could considering Titanfall is multiplat and Europe will most likely go to PS4. But US Xbone gamers love shooters and will probably lead it to at least BF sales.



Ill got with Infamous, if the previews are right and its like GTA where you can screw around a lot ill bring in lots of peeps.

Also Titan is multiplat and PS4 is whoopin the X1. will be close hopefully since, fps on a xbox.



Titanfall will sell more because FPSers is the more popular genre. Outside of Skyrim and GTA, open world games tend to have average sells.