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VitroBahllee on 16 January 2014

Half of why I got an Xbox One WAS the new Kinect.



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lt_dan_27 on 16 January 2014
curl-6 said:
lt_dan_27 said:

Nintendo games sell at full price for not just one year, but multiple?? WOW! That's amazing. Except for these few exceptions. ZombiU, lego city undercover, super luigi, new super mario bros, Pikmin 3 (possibly), Sonic lost world... I think you get the point. Don't say I'm misinterprettying what you're saying intentionally again. When you assign a numeric value to something, that's what people assume you mean. If you say years, I expect more than 2. You're the one being misleading in this context. 

Also, the xbox one would probably being killing ps4 in north america if it had launched at a lower price with an optional sensor as an accessory. They basically just gave up every territory, and made the US a huge battle ground. Which it wouldn't be if the numbers were similar to last gen.

ZombiU, Sonic, LEGO City are not Nintendo games, they were just published by them. Nintendo's window for profit for their own software is more like 3 YEARS, not 3 months.

And Xbone wouldn't be selling well if people really had such an aversion to Kinect.

I don't see how three games makes my point any less valid. Trust me, their window for profit isn't three years. If you can show me a fact sheet about that, I'll beleive you. Developers have said that the window for profit is often times less than two months because of used game. You're living in a dream world if you seriously believe that. 

And I was saying I think the xbox one would be selling better if the kinect wasn't forced onto people. 



curl-6 on 16 January 2014
lt_dan_27 said:
curl-6 said:
lt_dan_27 said:

Nintendo games sell at full price for not just one year, but multiple?? WOW! That's amazing. Except for these few exceptions. ZombiU, lego city undercover, super luigi, new super mario bros, Pikmin 3 (possibly), Sonic lost world... I think you get the point. Don't say I'm misinterprettying what you're saying intentionally again. When you assign a numeric value to something, that's what people assume you mean. If you say years, I expect more than 2. You're the one being misleading in this context. 

Also, the xbox one would probably being killing ps4 in north america if it had launched at a lower price with an optional sensor as an accessory. They basically just gave up every territory, and made the US a huge battle ground. Which it wouldn't be if the numbers were similar to last gen.

ZombiU, Sonic, LEGO City are not Nintendo games, they were just published by them. Nintendo's window for profit for their own software is more like 3 YEARS, not 3 months.

And Xbone wouldn't be selling well if people really had such an aversion to Kinect.

I don't see how three games makes my point any less valid. Trust me, their window for profit isn't three years. If you can show me a fact sheet about that, I'll beleive you. Developers have said that the window for profit is often times less than two months because of used game. You're living in a dream world if you seriously believe that. 

And I was saying I think the xbox one would be selling better if the kinect wasn't forced onto people. 

For other devs. Not Nintendo. They follow a different pricing model. Show me where Nintendo said their profit margin in two months.

And plenty of people obviously seem okay with having it "forced" on them.



lt_dan_27 on 16 January 2014
curl-6 said:
lt_dan_27 said:
curl-6 said:
lt_dan_27 said:

Nintendo games sell at full price for not just one year, but multiple?? WOW! That's amazing. Except for these few exceptions. ZombiU, lego city undercover, super luigi, new super mario bros, Pikmin 3 (possibly), Sonic lost world... I think you get the point. Don't say I'm misinterprettying what you're saying intentionally again. When you assign a numeric value to something, that's what people assume you mean. If you say years, I expect more than 2. You're the one being misleading in this context. 

Also, the xbox one would probably being killing ps4 in north america if it had launched at a lower price with an optional sensor as an accessory. They basically just gave up every territory, and made the US a huge battle ground. Which it wouldn't be if the numbers were similar to last gen.

ZombiU, Sonic, LEGO City are not Nintendo games, they were just published by them. Nintendo's window for profit for their own software is more like 3 YEARS, not 3 months.

And Xbone wouldn't be selling well if people really had such an aversion to Kinect.

I don't see how three games makes my point any less valid. Trust me, their window for profit isn't three years. If you can show me a fact sheet about that, I'll beleive you. Developers have said that the window for profit is often times less than two months because of used game. You're living in a dream world if you seriously believe that. 

And I was saying I think the xbox one would be selling better if the kinect wasn't forced onto people. 

For other devs. Not Nintendo. They follow a different pricing model. Show me where Nintendo said their profit margin in two months.

And plenty of people obviously seem okay with having it "forced" on them.


I read that article seriously 8 months ago. Look it up yourself. And I've provided games that are published  by nintendo that are under their original value within months, so demand can't be too high for them.  I want  you to show me one game that nintendo's made that's stayed it's originaly price for years because apparently they do. 



curl-6 on 16 January 2014
lt_dan_27 said:

I read that article seriously 8 months ago. Look it up yourself. And I've provided games that are published  by nintendo that are under their original value within months, so demand can't be too high for them.  I want  you to show me one game that nintendo's made that's stayed it's originaly price for years because apparently they do. 

Published by Nintendo =/= made by Nintendo.

And Mario Kart Wii and Kirby's Epic Yarn off the top of my head stayed obscenely expensive for years. Pretty much all their major, in-house developed games stay pricey long after just about every other company's games are in the bargain bin.



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lt_dan_27 on 16 January 2014
curl-6 said:
lt_dan_27 said:

I read that article seriously 8 months ago. Look it up yourself. And I've provided games that are published  by nintendo that are under their original value within months, so demand can't be too high for them.  I want  you to show me one game that nintendo's made that's stayed it's originaly price for years because apparently they do. 

Published by Nintendo =/= made by Nintendo.

And Mario Kart Wii and Kirby's Epic Yarn off the top of my head stayed obscenely expensive for years. Pretty much all their major, in-house developed games stay pricey long after just about every other company's games are in the bargain bin.


So, what you're saying is based on your memory. Cool. I'm tired of your BS. I'm done with you. 



curl-6 on 16 January 2014
lt_dan_27 said:
curl-6 said:
lt_dan_27 said:

I read that article seriously 8 months ago. Look it up yourself. And I've provided games that are published  by nintendo that are under their original value within months, so demand can't be too high for them.  I want  you to show me one game that nintendo's made that's stayed it's originaly price for years because apparently they do. 

Published by Nintendo =/= made by Nintendo.

And Mario Kart Wii and Kirby's Epic Yarn off the top of my head stayed obscenely expensive for years. Pretty much all their major, in-house developed games stay pricey long after just about every other company's games are in the bargain bin.


So, what you're saying is based on your memory. Cool. I'm tired of your BS. I'm done with you. 

No, its based on common knowledge.



prayformojo on 16 January 2014

Considering Nintendo is now the LAST traditional console, I'd say they're not just important, but absolutely necessary. They're the last of their kind. Free online play, free backwards compatibility, releasing games that are FULL releases, with no content withheld just to turn a buck via DLC.

I'm in full support of them. 100%



zorg1000 on 16 January 2014

http://www.vooks.net/two-new-nintendo-selects-titles-for-america-brawl-and-donkey-kong-get-price-drops/http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/09/three_wii_classics_get_a_price_reduction_in_north_america

NSMB Wii, Sports Resort, Galaxy 2 were all over 3 years old, Smash Bros was 4 years and DKC Returns was 1.5 When they got price cuts. Mario Kart Wii is almost 6 years and still at full price. Nintendo window for profit is far greater than 2 months.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

curl-6 on 16 January 2014
zorg1000 said:
http://www.vooks.net/two-new-nintendo-selects-titles-for-america-brawl-and-donkey-kong-get-price-drops/http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/09/three_wii_classics_get_a_price_reduction_in_north_america

NSMB Wii, Sports Resort, Galaxy 2 were all over 3 years old, Smash Bros was 4 years and DKC Returns was 1.5 When they got price cuts. Mario Kart Wii is almost 6 years and still at full price. Nintendo window for profit is far greater than 2 months.

You should quote him so he sees it.