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Who is the king of monsters to you?

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So my 11yr old and I have this on-going battle. He absolutely loves Cloverfield. He's researched and studied every part and filled me in on a ton of lore regarding the creature. He's convinced that Cloverfield would mop to floor against the King of Monsters.

Let's cover this a bit.

Godzilla ("King of Monsters")

For reference "Godzilla" is in no way referring the the radiated iguana from the 1998 American film. In fact, Godzilla in a later movie destroyed "Zilla" very quickly and absolutely just to prove a point at how bad that depiction was.

Size ranges a bit depending on artistic value, but he's generally considered to be around 50 to 100 meters tall. Wikipedia has him at about 80 meters, likely just an average.

He's proven to be indestructible in almost every sense of the word. NO human weapon has killed the adult Godzilla. NO amount of other monsters from those smaller, bigger, faster and an large groups have beaten him. Closest you can call it have been a couple times when two monsters simply went different directions and equally gave up. However, in a few more recent movies Godzilla has come back to them and whooped ass.

He has incredible strength, intelligence, and fighting moves.

He has atomic massive fire breath that can even shoot well into space to destroy massive monsters as well as comets.

He has amazing regenative powers that are so powerful he even survived his own internal nuclear meltdown that was so worrying people thought it was going to destroy the planet itself.

He's "God"-zilla for a reason.

Cloverfield

In the movie, Cloverfield was a baby. So, a lot of this is just conjecture on what Cloverfield might be as an adult kaiju.

Baby Cloverfield was already slightly taller than Godzilla, thus adult version is very likely to be MUCH taller/bigger than Godzilla.

Baby Cloverfield was not killed, but was hurt by conventional weapons and most agree he was really hurt by the final nuclear attack. However, its assumed that adult Cloverfield would not be phased by any of the man-made weapons, except very large nukes (but it would take many as they would be small wounds to such a massive creature).

Baby Cloverfield's only weapons were basic gnashing and biting along with the parasites. The parasites are known to only be part of the baby Cloverfield anatomy and non-existent as an adult. However, there is no way of knowing if the adult Cloverfield would gain any additional type of weaponry as even baby Godzilla's had to learn/develop their atomic fire breath.

Baby Cloverfield showed absolutely zero intelligence beyond an average wild animal. However, our point of view in the movie was rather limited of course.

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No doubt in anyone's mind should exist that baby Cloverfield vs Godzilla would be heavily one-sided as one blast from Godzilla's atomic fire breath (which is far more powerful than many-many nuke bombs) would easily decapitate him as seen in Godzilla Final Wars. However, we have no clue how many shots it would take to gravely hurt an adult Cloverfield.

Godzilla has fought many monsters far larger than itself such as Biollante.

Godzilla has fought many monsters that were arguably a lot stronger or better equiped including his biggest nemisis Ghidorah (of varous forms).

Godzilla has fought many powerful monsters all at the same time.

In each and every case, Godzilla proved that his capabilty to heal quickly combined with his intelligence and firepower allowed him to win in the end.

But the single biggest question is, what would an adult Cloverfield gain beyond size and strength? We know the parasites had a strong venom. Could the adult Cloverfield gain a similar toxin that would be enough to poison, even slowly, Godzilla beyond his healing capabilities? IDK considering Godzilla survived his own internal nuclear melt-down in a rather spectacular manner.

In the end I think I have to go with either an amazingly powerful Cloverfield resulting in a stand-off where each simply walk away OR a drawn out fight where Godzilla triumphs once again due to his ability to heal and a massive atomic blast to the face of Cloverfield.

Who is the king of monsters to you?



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Godzilla > everything (Cloverfield, King Kong, etc. etc.)



The Blob is the King



Cloverfield.



As someone who owns all 28 Godzilla movies and loves Cloverfield, Godzilla has this one in the bag.

His atomic heat ray breath and regenerative abilities give him the edge.



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Also a few corrections:

- Godzilla did not survive his own nuclear meltdown; the Godzilla seen afterwards is the adolescent Junior, reborn from absorbing the radioactive fallout.

- The final attack on Cloverfield was not nuclear; there was no "flash." It was a conventional carpet bombing.



Size means nothing here because Clover is limited in the way he can attack Godzilla. We don't even know if the Clover species can grow that much.

Considering that Godzilla can shoot atomic blast into space, I'm siding with the king of monsters. Godzilla



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curl-6 said:
Also a few corrections:

- Godzilla did not survive his own nuclear meltdown; the Godzilla seen afterwards is the adolescent Junior, reborn from absorbing the radioactive fallout.

- The final attack on Cloverfield was not nuclear; there was no "flash." It was a conventional carpet bombing.

Thank you for that. I literally just watched the vs Destroyah movie and I did consider it was Jr, but it seemed odd Jr got into the exact same spot that quickly.

Additionally, I read quite a bit before post this and I was pretty sure it seemed like the consensus was a nuke attack on Cloverfield at the end.



Things like that always depend on who writes the plot.

Anyone can write a story where either of the monsters wins, but if you have to write it for a audience you have to consider some things.

Popularity: If both monsters are popular you will probably write a story where none of them truly wins or loses.
Otherwise popular monster wins by default, like when traditional Godzilla beat Gino (digital Godzilla) in a matter of seconds in Final Wars.

Good and Evil: If the evil monster is popular, see above. Otherwise you would have the good monster win the fight.
Godzilla has been on both sides, but Cloverfield is definately a enemy of earth. Should Cloverfield attack Godzilla would certainly assume his defender role.

Third party involvement: There may be a unknown force that starts the fight between the monsters for some reason, which would end with both monsters teaming up to beat them in the end.

I would say that Cloverfield is popular enough to warrant a semi draw, but Godzilla would certainly come out on top.



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superchunk said:
curl-6 said:
Also a few corrections:

- Godzilla did not survive his own nuclear meltdown; the Godzilla seen afterwards is the adolescent Junior, reborn from absorbing the radioactive fallout.

- The final attack on Cloverfield was not nuclear; there was no "flash." It was a conventional carpet bombing.

Thank you for that. I literally just watched the vs Destroyah movie and I did consider it was Jr, but it seemed odd Jr got into the exact same spot that quickly.

Additionally, I read quite a bit before post this and I was pretty sure it seemed like the consensus was a nuke attack on Cloverfield at the end.

If it was a nuclear attack, there would have been a blinding white flash before the blast, and the camera's SD card would have been wiped by the EMP.