I remember a lot of hate for pspgo because of the lack of disc, the price of vita and proprietary format here done by sony fans... Now if you are talking about fanboys in this thread you will find people saying that ms should have a piece of all second hand sell and drm is good for us.

Well it certainly is an optional service but it's the option Sony came up to satisfy people who wants backwards compatibility.

And frankly it sucks. It's bound to be unreliable if it's dependant on bandwith. Until every country as a decent internet infrastructure not everyone is going to enjoy the service.

Not true. There are tons of examples of Sony fans overcriticizing Sony. A perfect example that springs to mind is pspgo. It failed hard and practically no one gave it a chance. I don't remember reading a single positive comment before it was released.

Talking trash about DLC actually makes more sense when developers lock content on disc, release day 1 dlc or leave content out and sell it later as DLC. If ps now was used for extra feautures of every game (i.e. you need to use ps now to play as x character), then it would be quite similar.

Like all the Xbox fans who supported XBO's idiot DRM policies? Or all the Nintendo fans who don't care about region locking? Don't act like it's only Sony with blind supporters. 

Good point.

Except, PS Move pretty well bombed and is done, kind of like 3D push for a bit. Sony fans do not buy up what ever they sell. Fortunately the PS4 was not forced to have a camera and move included, allowing choice and for the console to be $400 instead of $500.

PS Plus offers huge amount of value for anyone who games with tons of discounts and free trials.  There is nothing comparative by Nintendo or Microsoft in cost and value to PS+

Paywall is not great, but given it is...

1. Combined with PS+ great value already

2. A set precedent by Microsoft

...really softended the blow. Hell, I don't even have internet and I paid $60 for 2 years of PS+ to take the systems over once a month to a friend's place and get all the demos, trials and discounts.

PS Now we honestly still do not know about how it will do.  On the internet requirement, when the entire basis of your idea (streaming) is online based it is understandable. Especially when you consider that traditional methods of acquriing physical media will continue.  No one is being forced to use PlayStation Now.

If Microsoft really was Sony this is how their E3 would have gone.

"We are really excited about the Xbox One! We are pleased to announce two SKUs, one with Kinect for $499 and one without for $399! Also, Xbox Live will now have Xbox Live+, a premium service that will offer free game trials and discounts. Now this optional service will also allow gamers to store and share game easier via their hard drive or the cloud. To do this will need a reliable internet connection. Thank you."

There, you offer choice, you offer value and I guarantee you people would say "Well, I don't like Kinect, but no biggie, get the $399 SKU which makes it on parity with the PS4.  Also, that Live+ service is interesting optional service that could change the way I game. Not sure about it, let others try and if it is good value I could see using it.  If not, no big deal as can keep playing like I did on my 360."

I still don't care about streaming games, like my discs

Who would celebrate or talk about failures?

How dare Sony fans talk about a game they liked and not a game that they didn't like. 

I have a question for the people here who really like the idea of Playstation Now.

What if Microsoft had unveiled Xbox One as a service instead of a console. You basically could play Xbox One games on many different devices and it required an internet connection and a subscription. You would not have any kind of ownership rights for games but instead would completely lose access to them if your subscription lapsed. What would your reaction to that have been?

I know what you are trying and that a lot of it was more on fanboys...

But about the general reception from sony fans have you supposed that sony products are good and the fan usually like most of what is show? Some that aren't released have a long list of possible buyers if it were more than a concept.