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biglittlesps said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:

/ enjoy COD ghosts, fifa 14 and how ps4 is selling more than wii u, that's what the majority of sony fans are doing right now


Oh irony, cherry picking games from a  system thats 1.5 months old, What great new IP's have nintendo gamers been playing the last decade?  Sony always invests in new and unique IP's, you should try it sometime.

I agree, Sony has been trying to create many new IP's and taking risks to create new experiences. People are buying PS4 even though there are not many games because of the reason of promise from Sony in providing new IP's and experiences from Games and they trust. But, Nintendo always playing safe with their IP's as the source to gain advantage to sell more software and hardare to earn profits with cheap and outdated hardare and also creating problems to game developers to struggle to optimize the game for the less powerful hardware rather spending more time on making games with more content. Nintendo never really wanted to innovate gaming with technology and ease the development for devlopers/3rd party instead they wanted to innovate their old games and earn more profits mostly from their IP's.


Yes, because everyone loved what Sony did with Crash and Ratchet after a few years of managements, in favor of these "new IPs" that for the matter nobody cares about and barely sell anything. At least that means more "free" games on PS Plus for us.

And "Nintendo never really wanted to innovate gaming with technology and ease the development for devlopers/3rd party"?   Last I checked it was the PS3 that turned game development into a living hell.



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FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:

/ enjoy COD ghosts, fifa 14 and how ps4 is selling more than wii u, that's what the majority of sony fans are doing right now


Oh irony, cherry picking games from a  system thats 1.5 months old, What great new IP's have nintendo gamers been playing the last decade?  Sony always invests in new and unique IP's, you should try it sometime.

Yeah i cherry picked the million selling games, if i did with ps3 (based in +10M sellers) it would be the same result: fifa and cod. I know that sony invest in new ips i already tried on my ps3, but the only that sells for the majority of sony gamers are realistic enviroment. Nintendo invest in new ips too you should try sometimes


What new Ip's has mnintendo done???? Many of sonys exclusive ip's sell well. Uncharted new ip. Infamous new IP, Heavy rain new IP, Last of us., little big planet (A tonne of awards there already) So much for the same result...  Any healthy system has strong developer support, unlike Nintendo. Sony could coast on third parties, but yet they keep trying new things...................that's impressive.

 

 

Also since when is third parties selling wella  bad thing??? LMAO that only foster smore support.....try to spin that as a bad thing? That's hw you are supposed to make a good system, not shun development support and live in a bubble.

Oh, please. The only new IP listed there that was created inside Sony was Uncharted and Last of Us with Naughty Dog.

Infamous was made by Sucker Punch (third-party and later acquired);

Heavy Rain was made by Quantum Dream (second-party, not owned by Sony);

Little Big Planet was made by Media Molecule (third-party and later acquired).

Remind me of how many IPs they destroyed and how many studios they closed in the proccess, in this so called "healthy system".



Arkhandar said:
biglittlesps said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:

/ enjoy COD ghosts, fifa 14 and how ps4 is selling more than wii u, that's what the majority of sony fans are doing right now


Oh irony, cherry picking games from a  system thats 1.5 months old, What great new IP's have nintendo gamers been playing the last decade?  Sony always invests in new and unique IP's, you should try it sometime.

I agree, Sony has been trying to create many new IP's and taking risks to create new experiences. People are buying PS4 even though there are not many games because of the reason of promise from Sony in providing new IP's and experiences from Games and they trust. But, Nintendo always playing safe with their IP's as the source to gain advantage to sell more software and hardare to earn profits with cheap and outdated hardare and also creating problems to game developers to struggle to optimize the game for the less powerful hardware rather spending more time on making games with more content. Nintendo never really wanted to innovate gaming with technology and ease the development for devlopers/3rd party instead they wanted to innovate their old games and earn more profits mostly from their IP's.


Yes, because everyone loved what Sony did with Crash and Ratchet after a few years of managements, in favor of these "new IPs" that for the matter nobody cares about and barely sell anything. At least that means more "free" games on PS Plus for us.

And "Nintendo never really wanted to innovate gaming with technology and ease the development for devlopers/3rd party"?   Last I checked it was the PS3 that turned game development into a living hell.

Sony tried to provide powerful system with PS3 which is suitable for Gaming but failed to see the developments the PC got which made big changes in Gaming development for the developers due to nvidia and AMD hardware. However, sony helped a lot with 3rd party to get their game engines working and other support in developing for PS3, So PS3 did sell better than Xbox360 which was easy to devlop for and had a one year head start. Now, they have listened to developers and provided what developers wanted in PS4 instead of thinking about themselves, but Nintendo did not change.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

Arkhandar said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:

/ enjoy COD ghosts, fifa 14 and how ps4 is selling more than wii u, that's what the majority of sony fans are doing right now


Oh irony, cherry picking games from a  system thats 1.5 months old, What great new IP's have nintendo gamers been playing the last decade?  Sony always invests in new and unique IP's, you should try it sometime.

Yeah i cherry picked the million selling games, if i did with ps3 (based in +10M sellers) it would be the same result: fifa and cod. I know that sony invest in new ips i already tried on my ps3, but the only that sells for the majority of sony gamers are realistic enviroment. Nintendo invest in new ips too you should try sometimes


What new Ip's has mnintendo done???? Many of sonys exclusive ip's sell well. Uncharted new ip. Infamous new IP, Heavy rain new IP, Last of us., little big planet (A tonne of awards there already) So much for the same result...  Any healthy system has strong developer support, unlike Nintendo. Sony could coast on third parties, but yet they keep trying new things...................that's impressive.

 

 

Also since when is third parties selling wella  bad thing??? LMAO that only foster smore support.....try to spin that as a bad thing? That's hw you are supposed to make a good system, not shun development support and live in a bubble.

Oh, please. The only new IP listed there that was created inside Sony was Uncharted and Last of Us with Naughty Dog.

Infamous was made by Sucker Punch (third-party and later acquired);

Heavy Rain was made by Quantum Dream (second-party, not owned by Sony);

Little Big Planet was made by Media Molecule (third-party and later acquired).

Remind me of how many IPs they destroyed and how many studios they closed in the proccess, in this so called "healthy system".

You think sony never invested into those new ip's????  Please. Still way more then nintendo, please show me these great award winning Ip's from Nintendo? HAlf the battle is getting good third party support and devs making great games, again how is that a bad thins?Sony had a lot to do with those games period.

 

 

Closed studios?? WTF?? Thats been happening all over gaming, but barely any of sonys have.  Pleas elist the oens they destroyed then? I am waiting. Maybe just maybe bad devs destroy them,selves?

 

If gaming went Nintendos way we would be stuck in the dark ages.,

 

Sony adapts, changes, learns from mistakes thus PS4 being a dream development environment, meanwhile at nintendo headquarters, it's 1998.



So this thread has now turned into:

"Nintendo invented the analogue stick and because of that they are the most innovative company ever"
vs.
"Sony has developed all those new Ips that play like the majority of games out there"



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Arkhandar said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:

/ enjoy COD ghosts, fifa 14 and how ps4 is selling more than wii u, that's what the majority of sony fans are doing right now


Oh irony, cherry picking games from a  system thats 1.5 months old, What great new IP's have nintendo gamers been playing the last decade?  Sony always invests in new and unique IP's, you should try it sometime.

Yeah i cherry picked the million selling games, if i did with ps3 (based in +10M sellers) it would be the same result: fifa and cod. I know that sony invest in new ips i already tried on my ps3, but the only that sells for the majority of sony gamers are realistic enviroment. Nintendo invest in new ips too you should try sometimes


What new Ip's has mnintendo done???? Many of sonys exclusive ip's sell well. Uncharted new ip. Infamous new IP, Heavy rain new IP, Last of us., little big planet (A tonne of awards there already) So much for the same result...  Any healthy system has strong developer support, unlike Nintendo. Sony could coast on third parties, but yet they keep trying new things...................that's impressive.

 

 

Also since when is third parties selling wella  bad thing??? LMAO that only foster smore support.....try to spin that as a bad thing? That's hw you are supposed to make a good system, not shun development support and live in a bubble.

Oh, please. The only new IP listed there that was created inside Sony was Uncharted and Last of Us with Naughty Dog.

Infamous was made by Sucker Punch (third-party and later acquired);

Heavy Rain was made by Quantum Dream (second-party, not owned by Sony);

Little Big Planet was made by Media Molecule (third-party and later acquired).

Remind me of how many IPs they destroyed and how many studios they closed in the proccess, in this so called "healthy system".

Even though studios like Media molecure, sucker punch etc., were not sony studios when developing those games but Sony funded the development and that's why they own the IP and its been exclusive to Playstation only not to the media molecule, quantic dream & suckerpunch.

Sony closed only two studios and its due to the fact of their financial position but they provided support to the developers by merging them in their other studios mostly.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

biglittlesps said:
Arkhandar said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:

/ enjoy COD ghosts, fifa 14 and how ps4 is selling more than wii u, that's what the majority of sony fans are doing right now


Oh irony, cherry picking games from a  system thats 1.5 months old, What great new IP's have nintendo gamers been playing the last decade?  Sony always invests in new and unique IP's, you should try it sometime.

Yeah i cherry picked the million selling games, if i did with ps3 (based in +10M sellers) it would be the same result: fifa and cod. I know that sony invest in new ips i already tried on my ps3, but the only that sells for the majority of sony gamers are realistic enviroment. Nintendo invest in new ips too you should try sometimes


What new Ip's has mnintendo done???? Many of sonys exclusive ip's sell well. Uncharted new ip. Infamous new IP, Heavy rain new IP, Last of us., little big planet (A tonne of awards there already) So much for the same result...  Any healthy system has strong developer support, unlike Nintendo. Sony could coast on third parties, but yet they keep trying new things...................that's impressive.

 

 

Also since when is third parties selling wella  bad thing??? LMAO that only foster smore support.....try to spin that as a bad thing? That's hw you are supposed to make a good system, not shun development support and live in a bubble.

Oh, please. The only new IP listed there that was created inside Sony was Uncharted and Last of Us with Naughty Dog.

Infamous was made by Sucker Punch (third-party and later acquired);

Heavy Rain was made by Quantum Dream (second-party, not owned by Sony);

Little Big Planet was made by Media Molecule (third-party and later acquired).

Remind me of how many IPs they destroyed and how many studios they closed in the proccess, in this so called "healthy system".

Even though studios like Media molecure, sucker punch etc., were not sony studios when developing those games but Sony funded the development and that's why they own the IP and its been exclusive to Playstation only not to the media molecule, quantic dream & suckerpunch.

Exactly.



biglittlesps said:

We are not going to play PS4 games in Playstation now, just PS1-PS3 and its meant a way to allow people to play their classics in any device in future without need of the hardware because the old hardware is discontinued after 10 years so we don't have PS1/PS2 now and also its meant for people who want to play their games anywhere without taking the hardware with them. This is future proof strategy and after 10 years we are going to see this as a medium for our classics.

Isn't it better to make people buy a Vita and PS4 for that?

in the end it just adds more reason to own those consoles rather than not having them as a reason.

less reason to own something means less hardware sales. sure you can't get PS4 games yet but who knows if you might be able to get those games in two years time?

this strategy actually makes me believe that there won't be a PS5 since they can easily stream everything. this is probably just a test to see how well it works and if it goes well which I think it will then they will stop production of the PS line and go software only



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

FlamingWeazel said:
Arkhandar said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:

/ enjoy COD ghosts, fifa 14 and how ps4 is selling more than wii u, that's what the majority of sony fans are doing right now


Oh irony, cherry picking games from a  system thats 1.5 months old, What great new IP's have nintendo gamers been playing the last decade?  Sony always invests in new and unique IP's, you should try it sometime.

Yeah i cherry picked the million selling games, if i did with ps3 (based in +10M sellers) it would be the same result: fifa and cod. I know that sony invest in new ips i already tried on my ps3, but the only that sells for the majority of sony gamers are realistic enviroment. Nintendo invest in new ips too you should try sometimes


What new Ip's has mnintendo done???? Many of sonys exclusive ip's sell well. Uncharted new ip. Infamous new IP, Heavy rain new IP, Last of us., little big planet (A tonne of awards there already) So much for the same result...  Any healthy system has strong developer support, unlike Nintendo. Sony could coast on third parties, but yet they keep trying new things...................that's impressive.

 

 

Also since when is third parties selling wella  bad thing??? LMAO that only foster smore support.....try to spin that as a bad thing? That's hw you are supposed to make a good system, not shun development support and live in a bubble.

Oh, please. The only new IP listed there that was created inside Sony was Uncharted and Last of Us with Naughty Dog.

Infamous was made by Sucker Punch (third-party and later acquired);

Heavy Rain was made by Quantum Dream (second-party, not owned by Sony);

Little Big Planet was made by Media Molecule (third-party and later acquired).

Remind me of how many IPs they destroyed and how many studios they closed in the proccess, in this so called "healthy system".

You think sony never invested into those new ip's????  Please. Still way more then nintendo, please show me these great award winning Ip's from Nintendo? HAlf the battle is getting good third party support and devs making great games, again how is that a bad thins?Sony had a lot to do with those games period.

 

 

Closed studios?? WTF?? Thats been happening all over gaming, but barely any of sonys have.  Pleas elist the oens they destroyed then? I am waiting. Maybe just maybe bad devs destroy them,selves?

 

If gaming went Nintendos way we would be stuck in the dark ages.,

 

Sony adapts, changes, learns from mistakes thus PS4 being a dream development environment, meanwhile at nintendo headquarters, it's 1998.


Ne Nintendo IP: Xenoblade, Endless Ocean, the Last Story, Pandoras Tower, Disaster, Elite Beat Agents to name a few. 



biglittlesps said:
Arkhandar said:
biglittlesps said:
FlamingWeazel said:
160rmf said:

/ enjoy COD ghosts, fifa 14 and how ps4 is selling more than wii u, that's what the majority of sony fans are doing right now


Oh irony, cherry picking games from a  system thats 1.5 months old, What great new IP's have nintendo gamers been playing the last decade?  Sony always invests in new and unique IP's, you should try it sometime.

I agree, Sony has been trying to create many new IP's and taking risks to create new experiences. People are buying PS4 even though there are not many games because of the reason of promise from Sony in providing new IP's and experiences from Games and they trust. But, Nintendo always playing safe with their IP's as the source to gain advantage to sell more software and hardare to earn profits with cheap and outdated hardare and also creating problems to game developers to struggle to optimize the game for the less powerful hardware rather spending more time on making games with more content. Nintendo never really wanted to innovate gaming with technology and ease the development for devlopers/3rd party instead they wanted to innovate their old games and earn more profits mostly from their IP's.


Yes, because everyone loved what Sony did with Crash and Ratchet after a few years of managements, in favor of these "new IPs" that for the matter nobody cares about and barely sell anything. At least that means more "free" games on PS Plus for us.

And "Nintendo never really wanted to innovate gaming with technology and ease the development for devlopers/3rd party"?   Last I checked it was the PS3 that turned game development into a living hell.

Sony tried to provide powerful system with PS3 which is suitable for Gaming but failed to see the developments the PC got which made big changes in Gaming development for the developers due to nvidia and AMD hardware. However, sony helped a lot with 3rd party to get their game engines working and other support in developing for PS3, So PS3 did sell better than Xbox360 which was easy to devlop for and had a one year head start. Now, they have listened to developers and provided what developers wanted in PS4 instead of thinking about themselves, but Nintendo did not change.

Nevertheless, you can still say that Sony never really wanted to innovate gaming with technology and ease the development for devlopers/3rd party  until the PS4 came along.

In what exactly hasn't changed? All three manufactures have the exact same policies regarding developers, publishers and especially indies, so I don't get what you're getting at.