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oldschoolfool said:

I know there's a marijuana thread,but I wanted to debate this specific topic. If the mods close this thread,then I'll understand. So,why should marijuana be legal. There's no real benifit 2 it at all. All it does is make you a lazy unproductive member of society. What good does that do to be high all the time and do nothing in life,but live for that high. Anybody that wants to use it for medical purposes is just using that as an excuse to get high. according to my reading,the drug produces anxiety,fear,distrust and panic. It also affects your posture,coordination and reaction time. It can also cause dellusions and hallucinations. it can also increase heart rate and cause sleep impairment. How does all that give you these magical medical benefits. I just don't understand what's so great about this so-called magical drug. For the record,I don't understand the point of booze and tobacco,but those things are legal. Why make just another bad thing for you,legal. It benifits no one. If I had my way,booze and tobacco would be outlawed. There's no benefit in any of these things. 

I think you somehow miss the point.  Its not make it legal because it is 100% good. It is make it legal because compared to alcohol and cigarettes which both are 100% unhealthy  marijuana at least has some benefits and is in everyway BETTER than either alcohol or cigarettes.

The only reason its not legal anymore is because it can cure shit the pharma industry wants to "cure" with expensive medicine that makes you dependent on the medicine(pharma industry wants money) and it does not make you addictive. Plus it is a "healthy" alternative to smoking cigarettes so the tobacco industry has a problem with it too.

 

Same with stevia in europe.

Sweeteners make you sick but they say "prove that it is 100%  unhealthy otherwhise we will keep selling it"  but with stevia it was the other way around "prove that it is 100% not unhealthy/toxic otherwhise we will keep it illegal"  The sweetener and sugar industry/lobbyists blocked it noone else.




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http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/marijuana/the-harmful-effects.html ----link. those really look like some magical benefits. I know what people are going to say,that the site is biased,but my point stands. the drug is'nt some kind of magical wonder drug. All it does is tear down society and there's no point in using it. The reason there's so many arrest for possession is because people are stupid,it's that simple. If it's illegal,just don't do it,it's so simple. If you feel the need to ruin your life,then do it in the privacy of your own home. I don't want all these stoners roaming the street. wow!!!! I did'nt know there were so many stoners on vgchartz. lutz!!!!!!



the only convincing arguement I've read so far is that booze and tobacco are legal,then why not the wacky ta-backy. that's a fair and valid argument,but if that's the case,then why stop there. Why not make all forms of prostitution and gambling legal while were at it. Why not lower the age of marriage to 13 and marry animals while were at it. 2 wrongs don't make a right.



My only argument for Marijuana is that discerning aduts should be able to put whatever they want to in their bodies. Sure, there are consequences but we should be dealing with THOSE consequences. Not everyone who smokes marijuana is necessarily lazy and unproductive (though it IS an appropriate stereotyoe for the average pot smoker) and therefore we should not be blanketly making all users of marijuana into criminals. Also there are some legitimate reasons for marijuana and drug use in medicine.

As a person who detests drug use outside of the occasional drink of alcohol I simply cannot advocate that we have laws that turn drug users into criminals. That said there are far reaching ramifications and unintended consequences that will stem from the types of policies that allow for adults to poison their bodies and we need to be careful to not be pressured into society at large being forced to support and pay for those consequences.



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oldschoolfool said:
the only convincing arguement I've read so far is that booze and tobacco are legal,then why not the wacky ta-backy. that's a fair and valid argument,but if that's the case,then why stop there. Why not make all forms of prostitution and gambling legal while were at it. Why not lower the age of marriage to 13 and marry animals while were at it. 2 wrongs don't make a right.


or you can open up your close minded brain and understand the reason why marijuana was illegal in the first place. There is no valid reason it should be illegal. You are just a lost cause. And should shut up if you don't know shit about marijuana. Also read my link. INNOCENT PEOPLE who had NOTHING to do with Marijuana have been killed because of incopitent laws regarding marijuana. Legalize it and there will be less deaths. legalize marijuana and the drug cartels are done. Crime rates will be lowered, less deaths will occur, etc... 



oldschoolfool said:
the only convincing arguement I've read so far is that booze and tobacco are legal,then why not the wacky ta-backy. that's a fair and valid argument,but if that's the case,then why stop there. Why not make all forms of prostitution and gambling legal while were at it. Why not lower the age of marriage to 13 and marry animals while were at it. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

"Why" or "Why not" arguements are silly and can be used for just about anything. It is a redicullous counter arguments and should not be used as. Well, we have Wars. Why not go further and allow genocides and ethnic clensing? Why ban chemical and biological warefare? We eat several types of meat, why can't we eat cats and dogs? Why aren't we allowed to eat human flesh? (Yes, those were mess up examples but I think you get my point.) It could go on and on.

 

I thought we were going to talk about Laws concerning Marijuana, so why don't we stick to the topic?

The fact is prohibition doesn't work it. People who want drugs will try to get regardless of the law. That is evident by the large amount of people who are regualr user and even larger amounts of people who've tryed it or was once a regular user.

Not only does prohibition not work it makes things worst. It drives the price up and pushes the market underground, thus creating a black market. It is because of black markets that gangs and criminal organizations flourish and become more powerful.



JazzB1987 said:

 

Same with stevia in europe.

Sweeteners make you sick but they say "prove that it is 100%  unhealthy otherwhise we will keep selling it"  but with stevia it was the other way around "prove that it is 100% not unhealthy/toxic otherwhise we will keep it illegal"  The sweetener and sugar industry/lobbyists blocked it noone else.


Wait.. sidetracked a bit, but stevia's illegal in Europe?!?!  Crazy.  That's what all the health nuts recommend over here in the great white north (Canada).

 

@ OP

While I do not think personal use should be illegal, I do agree that after a certain amount of consumption the general population should not be allowed to drive, same as a regular DUI.  Not sure if they can develop a weed breathalizer, but after a few bowls and a brownie I would absolutely not want to be on the road with myself lol.



It's all about the game.

Others have already given enough reasons why it should be legal, I'll just add this: It's a great way to relax after a productive day at work, and helps you get to sleep sooner and be productive again the next day. Instead of playing video games for a couple of hours at night, then not being able to sleep for another hour because you're still all wound up.

It's a good thing to have a choice. I'm sure the police will welcome the reduced workload from people choosing pot over alcohol for having a good time.

Anyway people have died from video games, not from smoking pot. Video game addiction is a far bigger time waster, causing real sleep impairment and all sorts of other issues. Ban those while you're at it. Let's get rid of tv too, way too much time spent on that. Music makes people violent, and reading fiction has never been good for you. Just work, go home, eat a salad, go to bed, work more.

Or you could live your life however you want to, and not worry so much about how other people choose to live theirs.



only posting in here to say that OP, you are not alone