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BeElite said:
selnor1983 said:
BeElite said:
selnor1983 said:
imo opinion it will happen before that. Titanfall and Halo 5 will just squish the PS4 in US. It will show Sony why Killzone just isnt even in the same street let alone Country. Halo 5 has no release date and no gameplay. And has 50k preorders already.


Man i hope you work for MS casue you got some serious delusions.  Only explananble if your salary depands on them.  

Price matters heavly in the US, extra 100 and even more if you want batteries that recharge is a big deal to a huge chunk of the population.

Batteries?

Play and charge kits are available the same as 360. 

Xbox One is the best selling Xbox ever with less contries and the highest price tag. Personally I think you underestimate FPS games in the US. Its only my opinion. Ill be either right or wrong.


Best Xbox means little if some one else is kicking your ass, lol highest price didnt the PS3 supporters early on say the same... how do you think the Xbots anwserd that.

I know they are and they cost extra, incresing Xs price even more compared to PS4.  I know FPS is important, but price is even more.

Halo will not out do a $100 difference.

PS3 wasnt the best selling PS. And 360 was doing alot more early on than PS4 is over Xbox One.

Halo 5 will do exceptional numbers. Halo 4 was the highest selling of the franchise when you align timelines. But I also expect on history that Xbox One will get a price cut with Halo 5. 360 did after 1 year. So it will be Halo 5 with $100 price cut. 

Xbox One is doing way better than anyone thought it would against PS4 as they both released same time. MS have alot more studios this time and more experience. I actually think Sony made a business/financial mistake with their price coniderinng how well The One is selling. Its far from over. And I think perception of what a console is will be very different from around Xmas 2015 onwards. 

PS4 is certainly not kicking Xbox Ones arse. It has currently more variety on exclusives and a higher price point. MS are in a great position. 



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iceland said:
BeElite said:

Sony owns the ip does it not ?


MS owns Quantum Break


and.. i dont care who makes it.



iceland said:
BeElite said:

Sony owns the ip does it not ?


MS owns Quantum Break


Maybe Quantum Break financed by microsoft but that's all.

 

PS4 still has much more new Ips made by Sony than X1 by Microsoft



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

the fact that people put so much stock into ONE game is sad to say the least. not just Titanfall, Smash, MK etc.

OT nope, not unless you believe they will drop the price then and only then would they have a chance of getting past Sony. The price is hurting it, not the games.



Yes, if not, Halo.



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Aerys said:
iceland said:
BeElite said:

Sony owns the ip does it not ?


MS owns Quantum Break


Maybe Quantum Break financed by microsoft but that's all.

 

PS4 still has more new Ips made by Sony

It's a little more than that, they're working with MS LA with the episodes that will be included in the game. But forget that

All Jlmurph said was that they're focusing on exclusives and new IPs are coming, which is correct no matter how you try to categorize it.

You're trying to downplay MS's efforts to make Sony look better, lets just agree that both consoles will have their share of new IPs.



selnor1983 said:

PS3 wasnt the best selling PS. And 360 was doing alot more early on than PS4 is over Xbox One.

Halo 5 will do exceptional numbers. Halo 4 was the highest selling of the franchise when you align timelines. But I also expect on history that Xbox One will get a price cut with Halo 5. 360 did after 1 year. So it will be Halo 5 with $100 price cut. 

Xbox One is doing way better than anyone thought it would against PS4 as they both released same time. MS have alot more studios this time and more experience. I actually think Sony made a business/financial mistake with their price coniderinng how well The One is selling. Its far from over. And I think perception of what a console is will be very different from around Xmas 2015 onwards. 

PS4 is certainly not kicking Xbox Ones arse. It has currently more variety on exclusives and a higher price point. MS are in a great position. 


You are good Pr ill give you that, you avoid reality well and point to your strengths.  You run with hopes and potential rather then facts and reality.

But X is not doing better then anyone though it would.  No one expected PS4 to whoop its ass so badly that MS would lose domminance in its strongest markets.

X1 might be selling fater but its failing at the same time, its losing marlet share in Europe and even NA. it lost the 3rd party advantage 360 had and lost price point advantage.  Sony is gaing back its market share and actually profiting right of the bat, 2.5/3 games sold for every PS4.  What they did is brilliant business/financial wise, only xbox pr would deny it. 

Deny all you want, reality is

MS is losing market share 
It costs more then its competition.
Its lost 3rd party advantage it had last gen.
PS4 costs less yet is more powerfull
Sony own more devs and more franchises.



iceland said:
Aerys said:
iceland said:
BeElite said:

Sony owns the ip does it not ?


MS owns Quantum Break


Maybe Quantum Break financed by microsoft but that's all.

 

PS4 still has more new Ips made by Sony

It's a little more than that, they're working with MS LA with the episodes that will be included in the game. But forget that

All Jlmurph said was that they're focusing on exclusives and new IPs are coming, which is correct no matter how you try to categorize it.

You're trying to downplay MS's efforts to make Sony look better, lets just agree that both consoles will have their share of new IPs.

 

Follow the discussion before joining it. You're not being objective.

Jlmurph was wrong saying microsoft has more new IPs for X1 than Sony for PS4 , i showed it's the opposite. as simple as that.



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Nem said:
NightDragon83 said:
Price is the one thing holding the X1 back in America... if Microsoft drops the price to $399 with a Kinect-less bundle you'll start seeing incredible demand for the system, especially once games like Titanfall and Watchdogs start to drop.


Ha! And people criticise Europe and Japan for making decisions based on brand. Exact same thig on the US.

Huh, what are you talking about?   Who said anything about branding?

But since you brought it up... if NA gamers care so much about branding, then why has the top selling console been from a different manufacturer practically every other generation?

As opposed to Japan and Europe, where it's been nothing but Ninty / Sony for nearly 3 decades now.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Aerys said:

 

Follow the discussion before joining it. You're not being objective.

Jlmurph was wrong saying microsoft has more new IPs for X1 than Sony for PS4 , i showed it's the opposite. as simple as that.

I did, he never said they were made by MS themselves. You made filters, as simple as that.

EDIT: I'm not saying that MS has more or vice versa btw, I'm just saying you don't know what had in mind with his original post and it was pretty unfair to set up those "rules"