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What's the point of no return for WiiU?

When/if MK fails 121 35.07%
 
When/if Smash fails 64 18.55%
 
When/if a $100 cut fails 78 22.61%
 
Other 79 22.90%
 
Total:342
episteme on 03 January 2014
kekrot said:

Still no advertising... That is important.

But I feel that more and more uninformed consumers starts to learn what the Wii U is. Just a feeling on my part though.

 

EDIT: Does anyone honestly believe that Smash Bros. is a big system seller? It's more of a hardcore game while everyone knows what MK is. Of course it will sell some systems but everyone and their mom won't buy a Wii U for Smash Bros.


Smash Bros. sold more units than Mario Kart on GameCube.

Smash Bros. Brawl sold 2.44M units in it's first week (USA+Europe+Japan combined).

Mario Kart Wii sold 2,1M units in it's first week (USA+Europe+Japan combined).

Mario Kart Wii was bundled and Brawl wasn't.

The casuals that bought MKWii, but not Brawl probably won't buy a Wii U.



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chocoloco on 03 January 2014
episteme said:
chocoloco said:
Areal-Llort said:
Of course the main reason for the poor Wii U sales is the lack of top-notch games. Mario Kart is the BIGGEST series for Nintendo. Once when MK8 releases, the Wii U sales will rise greatly.

So when 2D Mario was hailed as the Nintendo system seller everyone was wrong because the Wii u came out with a lot of 2D Mario in the first year. And, suddenly it fails, and people jump onto the Mario kart is the main system seller hype train. Call me a skeptic of the continued blind optimism from many for sure,


But it basically only had this one game for almost one year and it wasn't innovative and didn't feel fresh again like most other Mario games.

Nintendo Land did only sell because it was bundled. Pikmin 3 and The Wonderful 101 aren't appealing to a mass audience.

Now we have two games with appeal to Western audiences (NBMBU and SM3DW) and three games for the Japanese (NSMBU, SM3DW and Wii Party U).

If Mario kart is launch next Holiday season I think it will sell a lot of consoles. Even if not sold then and with a guess of earlier in 2014 all it does is give a good several months of increased sales rates at best. I once again look at the sales it mirrors in the Gamecube and not the outlier in the Wii. People will judge an increase as good,  but I do not see why it would push it beyond the meager sales bar set by the N64 by the end. I suppose Smash bros counts as a system seller too. Hardware also is a system seller and that is clearly never going to be a selling point for the console like it was for the wii.

I am not much into arguing what makes the console a success in games arguement because that arguement means little to Nintendo in terms of continuing to manufacture the Wii u.



POE on 03 January 2014

Wii U is already saved so please stop with the failure shit.



Captain_Tom on 03 January 2014

When it is $200 and SSB comes out. If that happens around the same time and it still cannot come even close to matching the PS4's sales we will know for sure...



EricFabian on 03 January 2014
Captain_Tom said:
When it is $200 and SSB comes out. If that happens around the same time and it still cannot come even close to matching the PS4's sales we will know for sure...


PS4 is one of the biggest sucess since PS2. I don't think even X1 will be closer to it



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Max King of the Wild on 03 January 2014
Dream_While_Awake said:

Why does it have to reach GC level by the end of the year to still have a chance? 

It'll still outsell the GC in the long-run.

so its selling bellow GC level sales and falling behind each month yet it will pass GC... have you taken a Calculus class?



bananaking21 on 03 January 2014

Smash Bro's. The system itself pretty much has zero to little appeal. it was quite obvious after a while that the games will be pretty much the only thing that pushes this system. nintendo's brand name or the gamepad wont.

Donkey Kong, mario kart and then smash are coming out. if these 3 games do not manage to increase the sales of the Wiiu by a good margin then the WiiU would probably hit the point of no return. its not getting any destiny game, its not getting titanfall, GTA, fallout, elder scrolls or any of these big games to help. Smash Bros will be the last game releasing next year that would have a chance of turning the WiiU around. Donkey kong needs to keep it alive, mario kart needs to start to reignite it and smash needs to finish the job and help it sustain good weekly sales. after that, if MK and smash fail to do so, i see WiiU reaching the point of no return.



Hibern81 on 03 January 2014
Seece said:
TheGhosts said:

I really hate those Fanboy Threads!!! People like you thought the Nintendo 3DS will fail and look where it is now!!! The Nintendo Wii U is only one year old just wait and see. If the Nintendo Wii U is not a success in 3-4 years than you can start making threads like this if you want, but until then you should be more worried about the PlayStation Vita because the Nintendo Wii U sales are going up because of the great games which where released in the last 2 months!!!

More worried about 3DS now than I was in its first year tbh, it looks like its had its peak judging by sales.

I don't see how this is a fanboy thread? You're aware that's bannable right?

Also I couldn't give a toss about Vita sales ...


Everyone is so quick to throw out that 'B' word. But you're right. I don't see this as a fanboy thread. In all actuality, the point of no return was from the day it launched. Nintendo basically has to ride the Wii U out for at least 5 years. Good or bad. Time will tell...



"Games are a trigger for adults to again become primitive, primal, as a way of thinking and remembering. An adult is a child who has more ethics and morals, that's all. When I am a child, creating, I am not creating a game. I am in the game. The game is not for children, it is for me. It is for an adult who still has a character of a child."

 

Shigeru Miyamoto

Moren on 03 January 2014

Sadly, it might just be past that point.

Although I have come to accept that, it is still incredibly bitter to see Sony fans celebrating it like some kind of achievement.



Dream_While_Awake on 03 January 2014
Max King of the Wild said:

so its selling bellow GC level sales and falling behind each month yet it will pass GC... have you taken a Calculus class?

What does calculus have to do with it? I'm just making an educated guess based off of what I know and what I think could happen in the future. It's just my opinion. Did you read my post above? 

In short: the GC had a lot more high quality games in its first year compared to the Wii U. The price was $150 and it had already used its first of only 2 possible $50 price drops. The Wii U has more room for future drops. Its first year on the market has little to do with how well it'll sell in the long-run when compared to the GC. 

You could also add that like the Wii, I expect Nintendo to release some sort of add-on which is an unknown factor that GC never had. I could obviously be wrong but I think the Wii U will easily pass GC lifetime.