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episteme said:
chocoloco said:
Areal-Llort said:
Of course the main reason for the poor Wii U sales is the lack of top-notch games. Mario Kart is the BIGGEST series for Nintendo. Once when MK8 releases, the Wii U sales will rise greatly.

So when 2D Mario was hailed as the Nintendo system seller everyone was wrong because the Wii u came out with a lot of 2D Mario in the first year. And, suddenly it fails, and people jump onto the Mario kart is the main system seller hype train. Call me a skeptic of the continued blind optimism from many for sure,


But it basically only had this one game for almost one year and it wasn't innovative and didn't feel fresh again like most other Mario games.

Nintendo Land did only sell because it was bundled. Pikmin 3 and The Wonderful 101 aren't appealing to a mass audience.

Now we have two games with appeal to Western audiences (NBMBU and SM3DW) and three games for the Japanese (NSMBU, SM3DW and Wii Party U).

If Mario kart is launch next Holiday season I think it will sell a lot of consoles. Even if not sold then and with a guess of earlier in 2014 all it does is give a good several months of increased sales rates at best. I once again look at the sales it mirrors in the Gamecube and not the outlier in the Wii. People will judge an increase as good,  but I do not see why it would push it beyond the meager sales bar set by the N64 by the end. I suppose Smash bros counts as a system seller too. Hardware also is a system seller and that is clearly never going to be a selling point for the console like it was for the wii.

I am not much into arguing what makes the console a success in games arguement because that arguement means little to Nintendo in terms of continuing to manufacture the Wii u.