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the 360 may be falling behind in console sales in the last year or so, but it's still sold about 70 million more software than PS3 has. so i'd say both Sony and Microsoft are winners since both consoles are hugely successful.



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Wright said:

· Failing to penetrate in Japan's market.


Now that you mention it, does anyone think that a different branding with a whole different strategy could help the Xbox brand in Japan? Like Nintendo did with the Famicom/SuperFamicon.



ChristianTheAtheist said:
Wright said:

· Failing to penetrate in Japan's market.


Now that you mention it, does anyone think that a different branding with a whole different strategy could help the Xbox brand in Japan? Like Nintendo did with the Famicom/SuperFamicon.


A different brand helped Toyota, so I don't see why not!



Just the huge power of the Playstation brand which also helped a $599 console survive until it could make a comeback. (despite even in its comeback days it was still significantly more expensive).

It's the brand power that just suppressed Xbox 360's potential growth. And lets not forget Wii's momentum early on.



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Wright said:
ChristianTheAtheist said:
Wright said:

· Failing to penetrate in Japan's market.


Now that you mention it, does anyone think that a different branding with a whole different strategy could help the Xbox brand in Japan? Like Nintendo did with the Famicom/SuperFamicon.


A different brand helped Toyota, so I don't see why not!

Didn't know about that, what's the alternate brand for Toyota or what's the story?

Edit: do you mean Lexus/Scion?



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ChristianTheAtheist said:
Wright said:


A different brand helped Toyota, so I don't see why not!

Didn't know about that, what's the alternate brand for Toyota or what's the story?


 

Hell, Daihatsu cars have Toyota motors xD



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fireburn95 said:

This gen had xbox's name written all over it. They dominated nearly every aspect yet somehow they are third - or close second.

I'm not saying they failed this gen - far from, but how did they not dominate (of at least playstation)

DA LIST (Feel free to add) of why xbox deserved to win!
- They released around a year earlier than playstation, so they had a year off being the only next gen console available.

- They had captured a lot of Sony's exclusives!

- Easier Hardware to work with
(and even though it was considered ever so slightly weaker than ps3, multiplats were equal if not better on 360 games)

- They had MULTIPLE IP's that sold in the multi-millions! Halo, Fable, Forza, Gears of War. They didn't have many IP's that sold 1 or 2 million unlike quite a number of PS3's.

- A universally accepted better controller.

- They won the motion control war (against SONY, but hell, everyone lost that didn't they?)

- They had exclusive deals with the BIG games (COD, Skyrim)

- Minecraft for a year and a half before Sony
(I mean it sold flippin 10 million on 360, thats like alot of mountain dews!)

- Strong(er?) marketing
(I turn on comedy central and every day I was told buy a 360 for this or that, didn't see PS3 too often)

- More focus on products than Sony
(Well the hardware and entertainment division only needed to focus on 360 games (sometimes PC) whereas during 360's lifetime Sony had to handle games and hardware for PS2, Ps3, PSP and PsVita)

- Sitcoms and many other tv programmes, when they play games - it's 85% of the time (YES 85) xbox 360. Big Bang Theory with their Halo night, south park always said/had 360's, even Breaking Bad (Which is made by Sony Pictures) when Jesse is playing with that little kid.

- Games almost always shown off on 360's at press events (or PC's with 360 controller, still brand recognition for xbox)

- Cheaper price at launch compared to PS3 (599 US Dollahs! <3 KAZ)

- They seemed to make exclusive deals with indie games that sold Mega! Minecraft, fez, mark of the ninja, super meat boy, braid.
(Well four of those devs have had bad things to say about MS (not specifically xbox) in the past, and two of them are making (timed?) exclusive ps4 games

 

MORE TO COME BRO!

 

But somehow they didn't dominate....

Any theories?

It was not universal and GoW means God of War




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toastboy44562 said:

2.) Japan doesn't like foreign products


Really?

Not sure about this.

When I was in Tokio, I noticed that many things looked western. People there also dress like in the west. 

Japan has the most mcdonalds outside of the usa i think I read somewhere. You do see a lot of them. Just an example.



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ChristianTheAtheist said:
Wright said:

· Failing to penetrate in Japan's market.


Now that you mention it, does anyone think that a different branding with a whole different strategy could help the Xbox brand in Japan? Like Nintendo did with the Famicom/SuperFamicon.


MS kind of did that with the MSX and it proved to be a huge sucess in Japan, I think if they teamed up with a big Japanese company for that market they might have more success.