Thing is America hasn't yet been MS land. Xbox came a distant second to PS2 and it came a close second to Wii. A console can only claim "ownership" of a market if it's been fairly dominant there for at least 2 consecutive generations. Yes that means everywhere was Sonyland and early sales in all markets suggest everywhere could still be Sonyland with last gen only being an aberration. We'll see I guess.

You can't add imaginary conditions just to suit your argument. The 360 dominated America and so you can legitimately call it MS land.

There's a big difference between 360 dominating America, and Playstation, Playstation 2, Playstation 3, Playstation 4 and Playstation Vita dominating Spain.

What I'm saying is people can't just dismiss something just because something is expected. It was expected that the X1 would sell better in America ... Why? because it's been dominated by the 360 for 7 years. Whether you call that MSland or not, it WAS the dominant console.

What I'm saying is people can't just dismiss something just because something is expected. It was expected that the X1 would sell better in America ... Why? because it's been dominated by the 360 for 7 years. Whether you call that MSland or not, it WAS the dominant console.

They have done so twice before in recent years... (with 360). We will just have to wait for their quarterly report to get accurate numbers and determine if their "2m" sold was just rounding up as the other two times or if it was indeed true. As it currently stands, I'd say it's unlikely that what they said is true for "sold to consumers", given all the numbers we have.

And despite them restocking several times in the UK, PS4 is still significantly ahead. And yet it launched a week later...

Same for uk, Sony now dominate 2 MS lands