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It's because people aren't that stupid. Why would I want to spend more money going the ebay route,when I can just wait for the stores to get plenty of ps4's in. Those people that go the ebay route are the one's that don't have any patience. I'm personally going to wait.



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pff ebay

Most stores around me where iv been hunting for a PS4 are sold out till late Jan early Feb.

And catching a shipment before its all gone is damn near impossible.



Awe, well you take a risk when you try to anticipate demand. That's why some business fail. Sometime you need just one really bad decision, like THQ, to lose everything.

At those prices I'm sure most of those sellers are losing money. After Ebay, Paypal and shipping fees. Peak demand should be around now, so perhaps they just want to cut their losses.

Looks like the 06 Wii is still unchallenged for resale value.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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Try and go to a store, I know a couple of people who are trying to get them for christmas, it's impossible!

However, my guess is that enough people waited for either the xb1 or ps4 that they will both sell whatever is available until at least January... maybe as far as March or April (I.E.: the sales numbers are limited by the number of units available).

With that said, unless something magical happen for Microsoft (people really really freak out over titanfall and Sony does not manage to get people excited over their exclusives is the only thing I can see) the split in demand between the two will favor the PS4, because games will constantly either look and/or play better on it.

You can scream all you want, make all sort of scenarios, most people are not stupid and they will pick what makes sense to them (shaky kinect controls will not sway people to the xb1, they already had kinect on their 360 and they sold it to the pawnshop or put it in the trash).



BeElite said:
pff ebay

Most stores around me where iv been hunting for a PS4 are sold out till late Jan early Feb.

And catching a shipment before its all gone is damn near impossible.


I agree with you. I personally would never buy anything on ebay,I don't care how bad I wanted the product. I've been seeing the same thing about the ps4. 



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oldschoolfool said:
BeElite said:
pff ebay

Most stores around me where iv been hunting for a PS4 are sold out till late Jan early Feb.

And catching a shipment before its all gone is damn near impossible.


I agree with you. I personally would never buy anything on ebay,I don't care how bad I wanted the product. I've been seeing the same thing about the ps4. 

i buy cheap car parts, but not overpriced electronics.  



Figgycal said:
J_Allard said:
Of course it's not as high as portrayed here. Most people here are Playstation enthusiasts.

Demand for both consoles is high and supplies are not meeting it. Console launch 101. But the lengths some go on here regarding demand, lol. Isn't there a thread about a waiting list at almost 2 million for PS4 versus like half a million for Xbone? lol.

I don't understand why anyone would sell on Ebay. Not only is it risky as Ebay bends over backwards for buyers, but after Ebay/Paypal fees and shipping, you barely break even on your sale. One of my friends sold one for $560 including shipping. That's $56 gone to Ebay and another $20 for Paypal. After shipping all the way across the country, he made $450. He made less than $20 on the sale. Just slap it on Craigslist for $500. People will pay and you still make a decent profit.

We'll never really know what the demand for either console is right now, simply because there aren't enough consoles to go around. If you wanna buy bundles, you can buy either console online right now and have been able to for awhile. But most don't wanna buy bundles, and most don't shop online. And at retail it's a crap shoot to find either console. As I said in another thread, someone posted a link to search local Walmart stores and something like 10 of the 14 local stores were in stock but I bet if I called, maybe a couple would actually have one. And I have seen exactly 0 Xbox Ones since a couple days after launch. But if I called around enough? Would be just like the PS4, would probably eventually find one.

Instead of a constant dick measuring contest, lets just be happy that both consoles are having great launches and the industry isn't dying like many people believe/believed it will/would. We could always have more Wii U situations. I am glad the consoles are selling well.

This is off topic, but you just convinced me to pull my item from ebay. I didn't realize there was a fee for both ebay AND paypal plus I'd have to pay for shipping. I should do the math first :/

Ebay takes a 10% cut off of the total sale price, which includes shipping. Paypal takes IIRC a 2.9% cut of the sale. Which is something I don't understand, aren't Ebay and PP the same company? Maybe I am wrong there. Seems like the 10% cut should be more than enough.

And yes, you then have to ship the item. The worst part about it imho, is that Paypal will hold the buyers money in your account and prevent you from accessing it, until the buyer receives the item and reports it in good condition. Which, if everyone goes smoothly, is fine. If not, you're fucked unless you spend more money on protection like signatures and other things.

Of course, Craigslist has its own issues. One of the guys I sold to refused to pay until I opened up the box and showed him the console, which was fine unless he changed his mind, then I'd have an open console and would probably fetch less money. It all worked out though.



J_Allard said:
Of course it's not as high as portrayed here. Most people here are Playstation enthusiasts.

Demand for both consoles is high and supplies are not meeting it. Console launch 101. But the lengths some go on here regarding demand, lol. Isn't there a thread about a waiting list at almost 2 million for PS4 versus like half a million for Xbone? lol.

I don't understand why anyone would sell on Ebay. Not only is it risky as Ebay bends over backwards for buyers, but after Ebay/Paypal fees and shipping, you barely break even on your sale. One of my friends sold one for $560 including shipping. That's $56 gone to Ebay and another $20 for Paypal. After shipping all the way across the country, he made $450. He made less than $20 on the sale. Just slap it on Craigslist for $500. People will pay and you still make a decent profit.

We'll never really know what the demand for either console is right now, simply because there aren't enough consoles to go around. If you wanna buy bundles, you can buy either console online right now and have been able to for awhile. But most don't wanna buy bundles, and most don't shop online. And at retail it's a crap shoot to find either console. As I said in another thread, someone posted a link to search local Walmart stores and something like 10 of the 14 local stores were in stock but I bet if I called, maybe a couple would actually have one. And I have seen exactly 0 Xbox Ones since a couple days after launch. But if I called around enough? Would be just like the PS4, would probably eventually find one.

Instead of a constant dick measuring contest, lets just be happy that both consoles are having great launches and the industry isn't dying like many people believe/believed it will/would. We could always have more Wii U situations. I am glad the consoles are selling well.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/09/us/indiana-iraq-vet-ipad-slaying/

on a high profile item like this, I don't think so. This is just an isolated incident, but I'd like to point out that even "being smart with a Craigslist purchase" can be dangerous. This happened to someone in broad daylight in a parking lot in the middle of a neighborhood. And to a freaking Marine, no less.



BeElite said:
oldschoolfool said:
BeElite said:
pff ebay

Most stores around me where iv been hunting for a PS4 are sold out till late Jan early Feb.

And catching a shipment before its all gone is damn near impossible.


I agree with you. I personally would never buy anything on ebay,I don't care how bad I wanted the product. I've been seeing the same thing about the ps4. 

i buy cheap car parts, but not overpriced electronics.  

yea that makes sense if you can find something cheaper,but why buy something that's marked up $100,when you can just wait for more ps4's to come in. 



BMaker11 said:
J_Allard said:
Of course it's not as high as portrayed here. Most people here are Playstation enthusiasts.

Demand for both consoles is high and supplies are not meeting it. Console launch 101. But the lengths some go on here regarding demand, lol. Isn't there a thread about a waiting list at almost 2 million for PS4 versus like half a million for Xbone? lol.

I don't understand why anyone would sell on Ebay. Not only is it risky as Ebay bends over backwards for buyers, but after Ebay/Paypal fees and shipping, you barely break even on your sale. One of my friends sold one for $560 including shipping. That's $56 gone to Ebay and another $20 for Paypal. After shipping all the way across the country, he made $450. He made less than $20 on the sale. Just slap it on Craigslist for $500. People will pay and you still make a decent profit.

We'll never really know what the demand for either console is right now, simply because there aren't enough consoles to go around. If you wanna buy bundles, you can buy either console online right now and have been able to for awhile. But most don't wanna buy bundles, and most don't shop online. And at retail it's a crap shoot to find either console. As I said in another thread, someone posted a link to search local Walmart stores and something like 10 of the 14 local stores were in stock but I bet if I called, maybe a couple would actually have one. And I have seen exactly 0 Xbox Ones since a couple days after launch. But if I called around enough? Would be just like the PS4, would probably eventually find one.

Instead of a constant dick measuring contest, lets just be happy that both consoles are having great launches and the industry isn't dying like many people believe/believed it will/would. We could always have more Wii U situations. I am glad the consoles are selling well.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/09/us/indiana-iraq-vet-ipad-slaying/

on a high profile item like this, I don't think so. This is just an isolated incident, but I'd like to point out that even "being smart with a Craigslist purchase" can be dangerous. This happened to someone in broad daylight in a parking lot in the middle of a neighborhood. And to a freaking Marine, no less.

Any time I sell anything on Craigslist the buyer must meet me in a police station or bank parking lot. Makes the threat of violence pretty non-existent when there is an armed person right there or cameras everywhere.