you mean nothing ? Cause that's where your clearly headed with your argument

I'll leave it alone for now. Dont worry, your secret is safe with me ;)

Insecure much ? LOL

What good is a description if nobody buys games based on what the review says ?

How exactly would a forum dweller like yourself know this? 

#Fail

Cause you can clearly see the distortion in what the reviewer says compared to what the masses buy. #FailOnYourPart

Once again the best advertising isn't going to save a game. If the game gets good advertising but flops then you can clearly tell that it was trash.

because WORD OF MOUTH and REVIEWS about it being bad from individuals who played it got around

#Fail

Except people don't listen to critic reviews so you fail there. 

Yea if the quality of a title is bad then its sales will eventually halt a lot quicker than it would have if it was Quality.

It sounds like you admitted defeat on that first line here.

again because the people who would've played it would've also let it be known that the game was bad. Maybe you should read it again, genius

#Fail

It sounds like you agreed with me so how is this fail ? 

The only way to remove the bias is using sales as a measurement of quality. A consensus on a form of entertainment is better and more relevant than an argument against a stigmatized gaming community around here

umm.. no. The only way to remove bias is to play the game for yourself to determine to yourself if it was biased or not.

#Fail

An individual alone can't define quality so there goes your desparate attempt to ignore my point. You can't make the assumption that bias is gone simply because you played the game but that is in fact not true because some people attain a certain bias to genres and such and may give an inflated reception such as japanese gamers praising JRPG's when most of them are clearly garbage. The only way to tell if the game is good is by measuring the sales because each and every purchase only adds value to a games quality. Consumers once again don't lie to themselves about what they want and if they want something then it means they see quality in a product. Consumers don't have all the money in the world to try every product so it was stupid in the first place to suggest that they play every game to see if they dislike it or not.

It sounds like you failed to use your example to prove your point.

No. You just didn't comprehend it, Mr. Rudisha/Attaboy ;)

Whatever makes you feel better LMAO.

@Bold You probably don't have anything better either.

You sound extremely desparate to find anything to go against my argument LOL. I'll leave it there so I don't hurt your feelings. 

Well, if you're saying those games I listed are the highest quality games of all time then I don't have anything to add. If you think there are better quality games then I would say you've already proven yourself wrong. I would however completely disagree that those ten best selling games are the highest quality video games out. Just a matter of opinion though.

You measure quality by reviews

Game sales are measured by appeal

Sales DO NOT = Quality

So basically you're judging review scores (ie some random dude's opinion) as gospel when it comes to quality?

Ok, I have nothing more to say to you..

Yes, all the way up until i play the game for myself to see if its true about what people are saying about it.

It's better than the broken logic of sales = quality that users like yourself and the slob guy in here struggle to use

Nobody has been able to prove how sales could determine a games quality and it can never be proven

Your failed logic has failed you and his arguments.

Sales DO NOT = Quality, sorry ;)

Edit: Anybody on this forum who actually knows how to use logic within their debates and reasoning can happily try to prove how sales = quality. You will Fail EPICALLY just like the other few users in here who tried to back the broken logic.

So please, Minority users who dare to use this broken logic, feel free to bring forth your reasoning of how sales could = quality because these other few users are starting to bore me..

If there is nobody else who uses this broken logic, then that shows that these are the VERY few people who do and that's a good thing

That's less people to educate on this matter.. But then again.. Some dont want to be educated on what's logically right and wrong but oh well..

So now you're saying YOU are the God of video game quality? Gotcha..

I'm not talking about what the standard of quality is in your fantasy world, I'm talking about the practicality of REAL LIFE, from a UNIVERSAL standpoint. And in REAL LIFE, there is only one true way to measure quality, and it's the only way that quality COULD be measured..

Now you COULD make the argument that quality is entirely subjective, and thus cannot be proven or disproven one way or the other. Hell I might even be inclined to agree with you with this argument to some extent, especially when it comes to things like music, TV, and movies.. However, if you claim that quality is NOT entirely subjective, you MUST look for a universally consistant, tangible, measurable way to show TRUE quality.. And this HAS to be how the game has performed in terms of popularity and financial success. It means the game is good enough that it has managed to appealed to the most people and its value has convinced them to spend their hard earned money on it. How in the hell else can you measure quality? Think of it like voting. Majority rules.

I'm not even saying that I PERSONALLY think that every game that sells well is a great game. God knows there are plenty of games that have gone on to sell millions that I dislike, even hate, and games I love that have performed poorly. I'm just saying that this is the only consistant, MEASUREABLE way to gage quality, from a practical standpoint. If a game sells well, it did something right. If it does not sell well, it did something wrong. Period.