enditall727 said:
What's wrong with the bold? |
Quality is measured by review scores ?! I think you need a reality check on that one.
Game sales do show appeal but at the same time you've yet to tell me why game sales don't mean quality.
enditall727 said:
What's wrong with the bold? |
Quality is measured by review scores ?! I think you need a reality check on that one.
Game sales do show appeal but at the same time you've yet to tell me why game sales don't mean quality.
| d21lewis said: Personally, I loved the Wii. It had its place on my entertainment center next to the 360 and PS3. The problem is, for many of the people I've met, they got tired of the Wii waaaaay before the gen ended. I was talking to a guy at work about the new consoles and the Wii U. He said, "Yeah, my (I don't remember which relative) got one of those Wii's. We probably played with that thing for a day." It was a very popular system but a lot of people that bought it felt burned. They were kinda tricked into it. Pretty much every girl I dated this year had a Wii and some exercise games gathering dust on the shelves. One of my co-workers bought a Wii for his fat kids because "It's better than just sitting there with a controller in their hands" and his kids are still fat. The Wii was the greatest trick the devil ever pulled. I'm serious. Yeah, it had great games and a lot of those games were the most successful of the entire gen. Still doesn't change the fact that people got screwed. I can admit this. It was time to pay the devil his due. So, like the DS, the Wii name was mega popular. Unlike the DS, the Wii failed to deliver for a lot of people. So, was Nintendo supposed to distance itself from the Wii name--their best selling home console, ever? Nope. Like the 3DS continued the DS name and dropped the "Gameboy", the Wii U tried to build off of the Wii name. The Wii name is kinda shit right now. Same goes for Xbox One and Kinect. Kinect was the fastest selling electronic item ever or some shit like that. I loved Kinect. I still play it. A lot of people got burned with Microsoft's promises for Kinect 1.0. They aren't especially excited about a Kinect 2.0, even if it does deliver this time. The sins of the father are payed for by the child. |
This is exactly how I view the Wii, it was amazing tech for a time but afterwards it was done and seen and put away.
It had some great games, but I don't think majority of people actually got the system because of those but more cause they were fascinated by the motion control and fitness games and those games sold insanely well in turn.
and yes I agree about Kinect too, it was another step forward into the motion-gaming, but PS4 sells better without anything like it so it's obviously not a must have like its predecessor. Which is why I think they should sell kinectless SKU for cheaper.
fatslob-:O said:
Quality is measured by review scores ?! I think you need a reality check on that one. Game sales do show appeal but at the same time you've yet to tell me why game sales don't mean quality. |
Quality IS measured by reviews. Not review scores but reviews regardless of them being professional or not.
How do you come to buy a game? You either seen a commercial, poster, or heard a friend talking about it and from those little pieces of info, you subconsciously determine if it sounds interesting to you or boring/bad. If you are on a site like ebay or at a store like Gamestop purchasing a game at the counter, it is 100% safe to say that the game appealed to you in some way shape or form.
You CANNOT know the quality of it just by looking at it and buying it. You will need to have PLAYED the game in order to determine if it was quality or not. After that, whatever you think of that game is pretty much your review of it.
If you went to a friends house and asked "Hey, you played the new Super Mario 3D world game, right? Well is it any good?" and your friend says " yea man, its a great game. Its the best Mario ive played in a few years" then your friend just pretty much gave you his review of the game summed up in 2 sentences.
Sales DO NOT = Quality

fatslob-:O said:
Then tell me how I am wrong ? |
Are you implying that a quality game is only a quality game if it sells a lot?
| enditall727 said:
Quality IS measured by reviews. Not review scores but reviews regardless of them being professional or not. Isn't that the point of a review score ? To infer whether the game is bad or not from a review ? Is it measured by the amount of reviews ? Again your not being very specific here. How do you come to buy a game? You either seen a commercial, poster, or heard a friend talking about it and from those little pieces of info, you subconsciously determine if it sounds interesting to you or boring/bad. If you are on a site like ebay or at a store like Gamestop purchasing a game at the counter, it is 100% safe to say that the game appealed to you in some way shape or form. The word of mouth from friends usually work best otherwise they won't mention it. Advertising means nothing for the most part if your game is trash. As for the rest what was the point in saying the obvious ? You CANNOT know the quality of it just by looking at it and buying it. You will need to have PLAYED the game in order to determine if it was quality or not. After that, whatever you think of that game is pretty much your review of it. It's true that you need to have played the game in order to know that it had quality but at the same if it had bad quality then it won't sell well in the long run because sales will drop very quickly mainly due to having no worthwhile mention. Whatever you think of the game is not what everbody else will think of it. To say that the top selling WII games were shovelware is ignorance on your part because at the same time they were system sellers. Why would the masses go purchase a system for bad games ? Consumers are more concious about spending than you think they are and they never lie about what they want. If you went to a friends house and asked "Hey, you played the new Super Mario 3D world game, right? Well is it any good?" and your friend says " yea man, its a great game. Its the best Mario ive played in a few years" then your friend just pretty much gave you his review of the game summed up in 2 sentences. How do you know if your friend is not biased ? There's a clear difference between the masses and the forum dwellers here like yourself. Your example does not show the reality. Most of the people that played SM3DW are not mentioning it as "good" but instead are keeping silent about it ? Why is that ? Sales DO NOT = Quality That right there folks is what you'd call a bad conclusion from awful examples. |
Kane1389 said:
Are you implying that a quality game is only a quality game if it sells a lot? |
What's the problem with that ?
fatslob-:O said:
What's the problem with that ? |
So the game that sells less than, lets say 3 million is a bad game?
Kane1389 said:
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Again there's a certain criteria that i would make. All games that sell over a million are considered decent. A game that sells between 3-5 million is good. Games that go over 5 million are pretty good. Yadadada you know the rest. 
fatslob-:O said:
Then tell me how I am wrong ? |
While quality is subjective and differs from person to person sales do not equal quality. It's simple really since games are interactive entertainment you would have to you know interact with it to be able to judge this quality, only after doing this would you be able to judge the quality of that game (since people have different taste a quality product would differ depending on the person).
Now unless you are telling me you have the ability to judge the quality of a game without actually playing it I just explained to you why you are wrong.
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cyberninja45 said:
While quality is subjective and differs from person to person sales do not equal quality. It's simple really since games are interactive entertainment you would have to you know interact with it to be able to judge this quality, only after doing this would you be able to judge the quality of that game (since people have different taste a quality product would differ depending on the person). Now unless you are telling me you have the ability to judge the quality of a game without actually playing it I just explained to you why you are wrong. |
Then tell me why the masses would go about purchasing a bad game then ? Selling to the masses is more trickier than you think.