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Ninjahound101 on 15 December 2013
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xJbownagex said:
I hate when people talk about 3D Worlds first week sales negatively.

It's already outsold Galaxy's first two weeks. It has 800k, Galaxy I'm pretty sure at this point had only sold 700,000ish, and that was on a bigger install base.

Wonderful 101 wasn't advertised and all Nintendo did to market it was give it a Nintendo Direct.

ZombiU sold poorly because of it's "sub-par" reviews. It's can actually be compared to DR3 in many ways.

The Wii sold, and it had little to no third party support besides mostly shovel-ware. The Wii U still isn't selling because for many people, it still doesn't have the games to warrant a purchase. It has nothing to due with third parties.

Call it damage control, but we can't say anything yet. We need to wait till we see how the Wii U sells through the holidays and 2014 before we can predict the sales of Bayonetta 2.

It's at 215k end of November in US (so you can't imagine it did more than 40k this week in US)

180k in Japan?

That's 450k~ plus Europe/Other. It's nowhere near 800k WW.

I know, I just checked and fixed it lol.

It was a mistake XD.

EDIT: It says that it's sold 710k, and that's in roughly two weeks.

Minus at least 100k overtracking in the US ;) which puts the other figures into doubt.

it is at 235K in USA which seems right, since NPD doesn't track Toys R Us which should contribute to about 10K and samclub should do 4K so about 229K including digital, VGC might be off on retail but the number is close to the actual Physical + Digital numbers

Do you actually have any solid figures? Just because NPD doesn't track Toys R US and Sams Club doesn't mean it doesn't factor them in, it does. And they actually have a crap tonne of solid data to extrapolate from.

Do we actually have any Xenoblade NPD figures?


They do estimates of those but NPD is about 75% accurate so the number i gave could be the right one, though all i did was give an estimate and either way VGC is less than 25K off

I have no idea about Xenoblade NPD figures though



bet with ash3336 he wins if Super Mario 3D World sells less than Mario Sunshine during the first three years, I win if 3D World outsells Sunshine's first 3 years. Loser get sig controlled for 3 months (punishment might change)

Do you doubt the WiiU? Do you believe that it won't match the GC?

Then come and accept this bet

Nintendo eShop USA sales ranking 2/12/2013 : http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=173615

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Ninjahound101 on 15 December 2013
fauzman said:
I find it hard to believe that both these games will make a profit . Bayonetta didnt do well enough to justify a sequel on the ps3/x360. While xenoblade did ok its sales still werent that great. Taking both these to a console with much fewer sales, and I dont really see either doing great. At best I reckon both will be even or only slightly profitable. Still if the nintendo crowd really goes for these games, and we see a huge boost in wii u numbers for the rest of the holiday period (its doing well right now), then these could surprise me.


Xenoblade did fantastic especially for an expirement, it sold out of its stock really quickly and almost hit 1 million units sold



bet with ash3336 he wins if Super Mario 3D World sells less than Mario Sunshine during the first three years, I win if 3D World outsells Sunshine's first 3 years. Loser get sig controlled for 3 months (punishment might change)

Do you doubt the WiiU? Do you believe that it won't match the GC?

Then come and accept this bet

Nintendo eShop USA sales ranking 2/12/2013 : http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=173615

bigtakilla on 15 December 2013

They games will be fine. Yes the first week or whatever of Mario 3D World did not do as well as other 3D Mario counterparts. Keep in mind though it released very close to the release of the new PS and Xbox. That probably put a hurt on peoples wallets, and even still it's 10th Worldwide on sales the week of Dec 1, and 7th Worldwide in sales the week prior. I think X and Bayo 2 releasing next year with hardly anything announced for any of the other systems, will be completely fine sales wise. As stated in previous posts on this thread, WWHD sold about 800k and 3D World will get above 1 million, I don't think you need to worry all that much about sales.



bigtakilla on 15 December 2013

Xenoblade did okay? It may have only sold around 1 million, but they only gave Gamestop the amount of games there were preorders for. It sold out practically right after release, then it was so good that Gamestop had it reprinted and sold it for $90 (I think), not $50 every other Wii games was which caused a major uproar, but people still bought it. That was arguably THE defining jrpg of last gen (and even arguing, we know for a fact it wasn't any of the Final Fantasies released last gen). Can anyone even think in recent memory where a game was so popular that it was reprinted and sold at RETAILERS for a higher price (emphasizing retailer because someone will post something like they seen something on Ebay, or used on Amazon).



superhippy420 on 15 December 2013

I think X will actually do pretty well and sell around 2 million. The 1st sold 900k as a Gamestop exclusive, very limited print game, and was over $100 before Gamestop "magically got used copies" (they are new, the cases are new and discs are fresh, come on now). More people know what Xenoblade is now, and I would'nt be shocked if it becomes Japans new Final Fantasy in terms of popularity. Bayonetta 2 will be lucky to get over 1 million. I loved the 1st but it only sold 2 million total, but I have a hard time seeing it doing that great. If it pulls a perfect 10 or a 9.5+ rating then maybe, but if its just an 8 or something people will ignore it.



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superhippy420 on 15 December 2013
bigtakilla said:
Xenoblade did okay? It may have only sold around 1 million, but they only gave Gamestop the amount of games there were preorders for. It sold out practically right after release, then it was so good that Gamestop had it reprinted and sold it for $90 (I think), not $50 every other Wii games was which caused a major uproar, but people still bought it. That was arguably THE defining jrpg of last gen (and even arguing, we know for a fact it wasn't any of the Final Fantasies released last gen). Can anyone even think in recent memory where a game was so popular that it was reprinted and sold at RETAILERS for a higher price (emphasizing retailer because someone will post something like they seen something on Ebay, or used on Amazon).


I'm with you man.   The demand alone was closer to 1.5 million and that was just a game that was localized from Japan late in the Wii's life cycle.  A new entry would move atleast 2 million, maybe more if Nintendo could remember how to market to core gamers as well as families.



fauzman on 15 December 2013
Ninjahound101 said:
fauzman said:
I find it hard to believe that both these games will make a profit . Bayonetta didnt do well enough to justify a sequel on the ps3/x360. While xenoblade did ok its sales still werent that great. Taking both these to a console with much fewer sales, and I dont really see either doing great. At best I reckon both will be even or only slightly profitable. Still if the nintendo crowd really goes for these games, and we see a huge boost in wii u numbers for the rest of the holiday period (its doing well right now), then these could surprise me.


Xenoblade did fantastic especially for an expirement, it sold out of its stock really quickly and almost hit 1 million units sold

Anything less than 1M is good if the game didnt cost a lot to make, but is still not great. While it may have made a profit I doubt it was a huge one. And considering xeno released on a console with an install base of >70M while X will release on a console with an install base of 6M (or something like this) I dont think it will get the same sort of sales.  



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superhippy420 on 15 December 2013
fauzman said:
Ninjahound101 said:
fauzman said:
I find it hard to believe that both these games will make a profit . Bayonetta didnt do well enough to justify a sequel on the ps3/x360. While xenoblade did ok its sales still werent that great. Taking both these to a console with much fewer sales, and I dont really see either doing great. At best I reckon both will be even or only slightly profitable. Still if the nintendo crowd really goes for these games, and we see a huge boost in wii u numbers for the rest of the holiday period (its doing well right now), then these could surprise me.


Xenoblade did fantastic especially for an expirement, it sold out of its stock really quickly and almost hit 1 million units sold

Anything less than 1M is good if the game didnt cost a lot to make, but is still not great. While it may have made a profit I doubt it was a huge one. And considering xeno released on a console with an install base of >70M while X will release on a console with an install base of 6M (or something like this) I dont think it will get the same sort of sales.  


I agree, its why they should wait to launch it until after Smash Bros, because X appeals to that audience much more than the DK / Mario Kart audience.



Barozi on 15 December 2013

ah c'mon know everybody is talking about 2m sales for X.

Monster Hunter Tri for Wii barely did that and it has a huge brand name (more so in Japan but still) and sold very well there (1.05m) on a much much much bigger userbase.

Xenoblade did 160k in Japan and did worse in Europe, so please explain how X is supposed to come even close to 2m sales.



superhippy420 on 15 December 2013
Barozi said:
ah c'mon know everybody is talking about 2m sales for X.

Monster Hunter Tri for Wii barely did that and it has a huge brand name (more so in Japan but still) and sold very well there (1.05m) on a much much much bigger userbase.

Xenoblade did 160k in Japan and did worse in Europe, so please explain how X is supposed to come even close to 2m sales.


Like I said the 1st did 900k and the game was selling for over 100 bucks on ebay before gamestop "magically found copies", and this was towards the very end of the Wii's lifecycle.    Games always sell better early in the lifecycle, and the 9.8 - 10 scores it will most likely get alone will get the gaming community talking, just like it did when Xenoblade came out.  2 m. may be a little high, but I really don't think its that crazy when you consider that it will be on the shelf for 3 - 4 years as well.