PS4 80-90 mil, XB1 65-75 mil

Pc master race confirmed? Just kidding but how will games get worse over time? I though with each new generation, games get better looking, not worse...Look at launch 360/ps3 games and compare them to games like The last of Us

small44 said: Nem said: small44 said: Nem said: Angelv577 said: yeah, because ps3 sell 80 million thanks to the casual crowd. Thanks to them ps3 stay in the competition for 7 years. Sarcastic mode: OFF Are you serious? You think theres 80 million of hardcore gamers on the PS3? The playstation is very casual friendly here in europe at least. People buy it for FIFA, Skyrim and stuff like that. Fifa,Skyrim are not casuals gamers cookmama and Nintendo dogs are. Like he later replied, there are different views of what casual gamers are. My definition of casual games is someone that doesnt buy more than 1-2 games a year. What games they are are irrelevant to me on this definition. For me a casual gamers is a person who play rarely games,some one could buy only 2 games a year but play them everyday. Many peoples buy a console only for Fifa or COD why do you think those peoples will stop buying Fifa and COD.

I dont think they will stop doing that. But it doesnt mean they will buy a new console to do it. Did you know that until last year i think, FIFA still came out yearly on the PS2?

Agreed. Maybe not fail, but all will suffer big declines from last gen. The economy is in much worse shape, the graphic wow factor isn't the same as it used to be, and one by one developers seem to be ruining their big franchises by overproducing games and recycling the same formlua until people get sick of them. More and more of the big names are also either merging or going out of business, and this is only going to get worse in a worsened economy coupled with skyrocketing development costs in a desperate attempt to appease the graphic obsessed hardcore in order to keep the franchises relevent.

Nintendo has decided to return to its more hardcore niche Gamecube style of games which has alienated most of the Wii fanbase.

Xbone is way too expensive, will come with few worthwhile exclusives, and will be largely irrelivant outside the US.

The PS4 is selling largely on hype and brand name at the moment. All you have to do is look at the current PS4 lineup for evidence of that. Once that wears out, the sales will plummet unless Sony can manage to capture lightning in a bottle with an unexpected breakout game similar to what Monster Hunter did for PSP. But they can only sell off hype and old worn out franchises like Battlefield and COD for so long..

Sales are going to be something like:

PS4: 50-60 million

Xbone: 30-40 million

Wii U: 15-40 million

This thread is essentially premature.

Consoles are starting to get sold in more countries than ever.
In general more people from more nations can afford to buy consoles.
The figures for the markets outside NA, Japan and Europe (North and West Europe actually) will keep increasing.
These sales might off set trends in the traditional console countries completely or to some extend.
Hard to say.
If you can break into the Chinese market for example, you might be able to ships millions to that country.

The recent NPD had several ps4 versions of games outselling ps3 versions, so obviously people are willing to move on.

Tablets and smart phones will have an impact on the market but much more the handhelds than the home consoles. 3ds and psvita combined probably wont even hit the ds sales and that leaves out the 80 million psps.

The wii u is having a hard time but might pick up as a second console to many of the ps4 and xb one buyers. In addition I think the 3 combined will be down when the losses from the wii u cant be countered by gains by the other 2.

Total console sales might be less in several developed markets but those losses will be more than offset by gains in the emerging markets.

Thats worng wii u will be the leader with 3DS in next year like the ohter years ago

Goremichel said: Thats worng wii u will be the leader with 3DS in next year like the ohter years ago

Hard to argue with that. No, literally.

I gotta come back to this one later. its laughable what people are saying.
PS4 will sell more than PS3 in less time cause tablets and cellphones have taken a huge chunk of the market??? What? That doesn't even make sense at all. Less sales would yes but not higher sales.
People actually think first week sales are going to stay that way beyond the first month? wow.....


I doubt PS4 will ever push the same numbers as PS3 simply because of the pay to play scheme Sony has going. Yes the die hards wont have issues but those people couldn't give the Vita decent numbers so how can they impact PS4 that much when they couldn't Vita and these people buy anything Sony. Just not going to happen

My guess is Nintendo in first with 100m. they have the games and the price
X1 in close 2nd because its more than just a graphical upgrade console and people are use to how MS does business plus they have the games atm too
Sony last with 40-60m sold. Charging scheme and lack of innovation/lack of games will hurt sales. Sony's primary group is 13-24 and that group depends on their parents for most of their purchases.