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Aj_habfan said:
Zucas said:
The only real thing I hate about these numbers, is now all the PS3 fanboys are going to think yes its happening, when really Wii is in obvious shortages, and we all knew 360 would start failing in 2008 anyways haha. I mean 360 doing last isn't that a surprise.

Only thing that is a surprise, is that PS3 took the smallest dropoffs from the holiday season. But other than that not too mnay surprises. But I still think that software wise, NPD is a little farther off than normal.

 

Come on, let us PS3 fans have our moment. Can you imagine if it sold more than Wii? O boy...

That would have been unbearable. Not only because the Wii is a fad threads would have popped up like mad, but because we'd have to wait a whole month before NPD February comes out and shows that it was just a one time thing.

Though I guess I could have lived with it. PS2 hardest fight was in NA, where it only sold like 58% of the hardware sales in any given year (and overall), compared to it's dominating 80% marketshare everywhere else. I guess I can live with a similar situation with the Wii in America. 47 million isn't THAT bad.

And not to burst your bubble, but...

VGChartz Hardware Data for the Period Nov 18th 2007 to Dec 30 2007:

ConsoleWiiPS3
America
2,546,857
1,184,55

Outselling the Wii wouldn't have been that big of a victory. Sorry. 



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trestres said:
Hmmm so 375,000 nunchucks sold but only 270k wiis? seems strange as people usually buy a wii with a second controller and wii play's number is smaller than the number of nunchucks sold, makes no sense, looks like NPD is undertacking sotware then

the nunchuck with wii play is 10 dollars extra. some people just want an extra controller and don't want to spend more money than they have to... how is that undertracking? some people also buy more than one controller. some peoples controllers break



Aj_habfan said:
Stever89 said:
Hyperion said:
I think NPD released these numbers to make VGC lose credibility. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. :p Or it's just me and my paranoia.

Yeah when you look at those numbers it almost seems plausible, if only when looking at DS numbers. How could the DS go from nearly a million a week in Dec to 60k a week in Jan, unless there's major supply problems? And both Patchter and simExchange had much higher (100k and 200k, respectively). It seems really crazy. Numbers were actually all over the place this month.

Console Pachter
SimExchange
VGC NPD (US only) NPD Total (US*1.1)
Wii
420k
403k
327k

274k

301k
DS
350k
460k
547k
251k 276k
X360
290k
289k
286k
230k 253k
PS3
240k
200k201k
269k 296k
PSP
200k
250k
268k 230k 253k

Looking at last year's data, I'd say that the DS is probably way overtracked. PS3 is most likely undertracked.The rest are ok. I'd still say VGChartz is quiet accurate.

CrazzyMan said:

400-500$ costing PS3 sold on pair with 250$ costing Wii that was supply constrained. And even then it was beated WW by the Wii 2:1. VICTORY =))

Fixed.

 

Did you just say it was beated? Then say fixed?

That is like the definition of failure.

 


I was fixing what Crazzy said? Not sure where you are going with that?



Stever89 said:
Aj_habfan said:
Zucas said:
The only real thing I hate about these numbers, is now all the PS3 fanboys are going to think yes its happening, when really Wii is in obvious shortages, and we all knew 360 would start failing in 2008 anyways haha. I mean 360 doing last isn't that a surprise.

Only thing that is a surprise, is that PS3 took the smallest dropoffs from the holiday season. But other than that not too mnay surprises. But I still think that software wise, NPD is a little farther off than normal.

 

Come on, let us PS3 fans have our moment. Can you imagine if it sold more than Wii? O boy...

That would have been unbearable. Not only because the Wii is a fad threads would have popped up like mad, but because we'd have to wait a whole month before NPD February comes out and shows that it was just a one time thing.

Though I guess I could have lived with it. PS2 hardest fight was in NA, where it only sold like 58% of the hardware sales in any given year (and overall), compared to it's dominating 80% marketshare everywhere else. I guess I can live with a similar situation with the Wii in America. 47 million isn't THAT bad.

And not to burst your bubble, but...

VGChartz Hardware Data for the Period Nov 18th 2007 to Dec 30 2007:

ConsoleWiiPS3
America
2,546,857
1,184,55

Outselling the Wii wouldn't have been that big of a victory. Sorry. 


You think people would have cared? There would just be threads that said things like, "PS3 2008 domination!" or "THIS IS THE YEAR!"



Aj_habfan said:
 

You think people would have cared? There would just be threads that said things like, "PS3 2008 domination!" or "THIS IS THE YEAR!"


We get enough of those threads as it is. We hardly need to give anyone a reason to start making more of them. I say let's wait until next month until we go into a "well the PS3 is selling on par with the Wii." Even though I know everyone (including myself) is tired of the whole "Wii is out of stock" thing, it's the way it is, and I believe that's the only reason the numbers are so close. Especially when you look WW and how the Wii is outselling the PS3 around two to one. I won't comment on Microsoft saying they are having supply issues. They're the bad business practice of making 10 SKUs and then making the wrong ones. Hopefully as more supply is shipping in Feb we'll be able to see where sales are.



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Regardless of all the shortages and what not. Sony impressed.

Also, give me a break about NPD undertracking Walmart. Last month, ioi said the NPD could been overtracking it!



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NDP put a TON of weight into walmart during the holiday and then seems to have taken way down now, I am just saying the % of sales for Wii from "casual" stores does not differ as much(% wise) as do the sales for the HD consoles(core gamers).

Also the toy r uses near me have been getting large shipments weekly, they could easily be undertracked. Do not forget ioi was closer for the Wii in Decemeber than NDP was... ioi adjusted for NDP, then when the fiscal came it prove ioi!!! had the better number... NDP sux... what makes me mad is that now we have to wait til march to confirm ioi again..



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

Wow. Sales seem to be poor for Nintendo and Microsoft but PS3 is surprising... I believe this is the closest its ever come to catching the Wii in terms of sales.