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Stefan.De.Machtige on 08 December 2013
sc94597 said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
MohammadBadir said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

Isn't the question: wil they made a another Metroid?

The last two installments pretty much flopped. If Metroid is returning, it's likely to be a reboot in some sorts.

How exactly?

Other M and Prime 3 sold about the same as the other Metroids. 

Sales have been going down with the last installments.

1 Metroid Prime GC 2002 Shooter Nintendo 1.96 0.67 0.10 0.09 2.82
3 Metroid Prime 2: Echoes GC 2004 Shooter Nintendo 0.87 0.35 0.07 0.04 1.33
2 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Wii 2007 Shooter Nintendo 0.87 0.71 0.07 0.10 1.76
1 Metroid: Other M Wii 2010 Action Nintendo 0.82 0.20 0.13 0.09 1.24

That's why other M was so different. NIntendo was already doing a partial reboot with the last installment, and it only sold most of that 1.24 number on half (or even lower) price.

Also remember that the increase of development funds needs higher sales just to make the same amount of profit.

What I see is that an innovative 10/10 game got initially high sales because of a variety of reasons. Then the series stablized to its baseline with echoes (1.33) and then it grew again with the higher install base of the Wii with Prime 3, and then it stabilized again with Other M (a relatively lackluster addition to the series.) All of these games sold more than Super Metroid. To use the words "flop" in this context is not only ridiculous, but deceitful and delusional. 

First off i said 'Pretty much flopped'

The install base for the Wii is 4x times bigger the GC. All major Nintendo franchises saw a big increase in sales because of this. DK could even make a big comeback.

All major IP's, but Metroid Prime 3. That game had the best Metroid controls ever, and also the first one a new console. Even the back tracking was a bit adjusted to suit a bigger audience. And yet it barely sold over the last installment on a platform 4x smaller.

That failure of an proper increase was recognized by Nintendo. Hence they went with the partial reboot of Other M. They wanted to capitalize on their biggest install base ever by making it a more accessible 2.5D.

That failed ever more. Other M 1.24 million come mostly from the bargain bin, when the Wii was winning the generation. And add to that the increase of development - the first big use of CG didn't come cheap. Production cost for Other M could have been the highest here.

That's why i would pretty much say those two installments flopped. They could have achieved much more but failed to so. Which is also why Metriod is in Nintendo's fridge.

In fact at this point DK has taken it's place as one of the big three.



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ninetailschris on 08 December 2013

Why would you want it on 3ds vs Wiiu?



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sc94597 on 08 December 2013
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
sc94597 said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
MohammadBadir said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

Isn't the question: wil they made a another Metroid?

The last two installments pretty much flopped. If Metroid is returning, it's likely to be a reboot in some sorts.

How exactly?

Other M and Prime 3 sold about the same as the other Metroids. 

Sales have been going down with the last installments.

1 Metroid Prime GC 2002 Shooter Nintendo 1.96 0.67 0.10 0.09 2.82
3 Metroid Prime 2: Echoes GC 2004 Shooter Nintendo 0.87 0.35 0.07 0.04 1.33
2 Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Wii 2007 Shooter Nintendo 0.87 0.71 0.07 0.10 1.76
1 Metroid: Other M Wii 2010 Action Nintendo 0.82 0.20 0.13 0.09 1.24

That's why other M was so different. NIntendo was already doing a partial reboot with the last installment, and it only sold most of that 1.24 number on half (or even lower) price.

Also remember that the increase of development funds needs higher sales just to make the same amount of profit.

What I see is that an innovative 10/10 game got initially high sales because of a variety of reasons. Then the series stablized to its baseline with echoes (1.33) and then it grew again with the higher install base of the Wii with Prime 3, and then it stabilized again with Other M (a relatively lackluster addition to the series.) All of these games sold more than Super Metroid. To use the words "flop" in this context is not only ridiculous, but deceitful and delusional. 

First off i said 'Pretty much flopped'

The install base for the Wii is 4x times bigger the GC. All major Nintendo franchises saw a big increase in sales because of this. DK could even make a big comeback.

All major IP's, but Metroid Prime 3. That game had the best Metroid controls ever, and also the first one a new console. Even the back tracking was a bit adjusted to suit a bigger audience. And yet it barely sold over the last installment on a platform 4x smaller.

That failure of an proper increase was recognized by Nintendo. Hence they went with the partial reboot of Other M. They wanted to capitalize on their biggest install base ever by making it a more accessible 2.5D.

That failed ever more. Other M 1.24 million come mostly from the bargain bin, when the Wii was winning the generation. And add to that the increase of development - the first big use of CG didn't come cheap. Production cost for Other M could have been the highest here.

That's why i would pretty much say those two installments flopped. They could have achieved much more but failed to so. Which is also why Metriod is in Nintendo's fridge.

In fact at this point DK has taken it's place as one of the big three.

I'm pretty sure your concept of "flop" isn't the same as mine or what most people think of a flop then. Also your claim "all major series except Metroid" is false, Skyward Sword sold less than Windwaker, for example. 80% (991,923 copies) of Other M sold in its first year. As for DK, it's always been big. 



gcube2000 on 08 December 2013

have it on Wii U. Then have another metroid game on 3DS



Proxy-Pie on 09 December 2013

Metroid Prime Hunters 2 for 3DS and WiiU port with cross platform multiplayer.



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Screamapillar on 09 December 2013

The way that 3DS software is going, it only seems to be getting better, I'd say somewhere, somehow, Nintendo is making or partnering with some studio on a 2D Metroid for 3DS. It would make a perfect holiday 2014 game alongside Smash Bros.

After all this, wouldn't it be hilarious if Nintendo partnered with Armature to make a Metroid game? lol.



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sc94597 on 09 December 2013
KylieDog said:
sc94597 said:

What I see is that an innovative 10/10 game got initially high sales because of a variety of reasons. Then the series stablized to its baseline with echoes (1.33) and then it grew again with the higher install base of the Wii with Prime 3, and then it stabilized again with Other M (a relatively lackluster addition to the series.) All of these games sold more than Super Metroid. To use the words "flop" in this context is not only ridiculous, but deceitful and delusional. 


What you're missing is value of the sale.  Metroid Prime 3 sold fairly well, but Other M made most of its sales at bargain bin prices. 

Again 80% of Other M's (over 990,000)  sales were in its first year. When did it hit the bargain bin? 



soulfly666 on 09 December 2013

If it is 2D and comes out on WiiU, I will buy a WiiU to play it.  I am a huge Metroid fan and don't get me wrong Prime is a decent series but it is not even close to as good as zero, RoS, super, or fusion.  Not even remotely close to as good.