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colafitte on 29 November 2013
kowenicki said:
lilwingman said:
kowenicki said:

Not at all. Why would they hold stock?  whats the point?  I see no advantage... none. 

Having at least some stock available in stores, on the busiest shopping day of the year, is absolutely an advantage.  Hardcore fans will search all over the place day and night for a unit, but they're almost guaranteed to come eventually so they're less of a priority than the casual buyer who just happens to be at the mall on BF.


Not if you will sell out reardless.  You may as well sell out week 2 as week 3. There is no advantage to Sony in doing this... None.

Wjat you are saying is lets hold back stock from week 2 (from hardcore gamers) and sell them week 3 to casual gamers potentially looking for a bargain (that they wont get on a PS4)... why!?  Sell it to the hardcore gamer week 2 and hope the casual one picks up a ps3 in a deal week 3 makes far more sense.

 

 


If i'm Sony I prefer sell more than Microsoft in BF week. you will receive a lot of advertisement for beating your rival in that week in USA (and you know it), than this last week that no one care. In sales is the same, true, but in recognition and people awarness is not the same at all....



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JoeTheBro on 29 November 2013
kowenicki said:


Not if you will sell out reardless.  You may as well sell out week 2 as week 3. There is no advantage to Sony in doing this... None.

Wjat you are saying is lets hold back stock from week 2 (from hardcore gamers) and sell them week 3 to casual gamers potentially looking for a bargain (that they wont get on a PS4)... why!?  Sell it to the hardcore gamer week 2 and hope the casual one picks up a ps3 in a deal week 3 makes far more sense.

Stores are the ones holding stock, not Sony or MS. By printing ads saying "next-gen in stock on bf" they hope to get more people in the store looking for a system. Of course by the time people get there the stock is gone, but the store hopes they buy another item or two while they are there.



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lilwingman on 29 November 2013
kowenicki said:
lilwingman said:
kowenicki said:
colafitte said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
WebmasterX said:
I dont understand. The numbers sales for Ps4 is 90% down at games and hardware???

It is completely sold out in the US. Expect it to go up again in the US next week and massively up WW due to the EU launch.


If it doesnt I will be forced to assume CBOAT had the wrong console... yield issues!!!

what a dick he/she has turned out to be.

Will you be forced to admit that Sony reserved units this week to have the most stock possible for Black Friday if it becomes true??


Not at all. Why would they hold stock?  whats the point?  I see no advantage... none. 

Having at least some stock available in stores, on the busiest shopping day of the year, is absolutely an advantage.  Hardcore fans will search all over the place day and night for a unit, but they're almost guaranteed to come eventually so they're less of a priority than the casual buyer who just happens to be at the mall on BF.


Not if you will sell out reardless.  You may as well sell out week 2 as week 3. There is no advantage to Sony in doing this... None.

Wjat you are saying is lets hold back stock from week 2 (from hardcore gamers) and sell them week 3 to casual gamers potentially looking for a bargain (that they wont get on a PS4)... why!?  Sell it to the hardcore gamer week 2 and hope the casual one picks up a ps3 in a deal week 3 makes far more sense.

 

 

I have no retail experience whatsoever so purely speculation on my part, but I would think that in Sony's mind they know that those hardcore gamers will buy a PS4 eventually.  For Black Friday they'd be more concerned about those casual buyers picking up X1's rather than PS3's, so they would want to have as much stock as possible to counteract that.



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Lusche on 29 November 2013

congrats to ms for selling more xbone in one week than sony could do in 2 weeks with the ps4.
congrats to the wiiu to sell more than 100k units and outselling the ps4.

wont last long though i guess since the eu launch of the ps4 is next week.



xenogears1234 on 29 November 2013
Shortiloe said:

Seems like HW-Chart is deleted everybody is talking about? Or am I blind?XD


Yeah i cant see them either in this thread only software must be a glitch.



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Zekkyou on 29 November 2013
kowenicki said:
Panicnausia said:
Ps4 software nearly doubling x1 wow.


errr. 2 weeks v 1 week... lol

Still, you have to admit the PS4 has pulled off something pretty damn impressive. Having a bigger first week in both software and hardware in the country your competition general dominates in is nothing to scoff at. Though i'm sure you will conjure up some kind of excuse ^^

OT: A great first week for the X1 overall, though Ryse's numbers are somewhat disappointing (still better than Knack though :P). Cliff drop of a fall for the PS4's second week, but i imagine that can be mostly credited to it being the X1's launch week and a lack of supply. 



Fusioncode on 29 November 2013

I'm not sure why anyone is shocked at the low PS4 numbers. All their stock is either going to Europe or being saved for Black Friday.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

TheSting on 29 November 2013
DucksUnlimited said:
kowenicki said:
Panicnausia said:
Ps4 software nearly doubling x1 wow.


errr. 2 weeks v 1 week... lol

Yeah but it's on a smaller install base. Kind of weird. The X1 price might be having some influence on how much software people are willing to buy for it.


Exactly in my case. I got the biggest thing out of the way and software will come later. Gaming ain't easy lol



Gamegears on 29 November 2013
chocoloco said:
Gamegears said:
chocoloco said:

Damn, so looking at Cod: Ghosts and Ass Creed: Black flag not even charting the top 80 on Wii U. Seems like there is a lot of reasoning behind third parties not supporting the platform, the numbers.

I am thinking the Bone will have really low numbers for week 2 in N. America as I have gone to several cities and not found a bone in stock anywhere. I plan to keep this up for every visit to a store that sells consoles out of curiosity until they seem to be consistantly in stock.

Naturally. Think about this how many people around here said they were going to get a Wii U for third party games?? (That does not mean that third party games get ignored really some people do buy them for the Wii U. Myself included. I have 7 games.. well 9 if you include dload only and 6 of them are third party games)  And I believe both AC4 and COD was in the top 50 for Wii U at one point. So they show up. They just don't stay there for long. 

In my long experience on these forums and GAF, the buying patterns of forum goers do not reflect the public as a whole at all. Forum goers tend to be gaming enthusiasts that are not remotely like the average gamer. It is tradition for vgc Nintendo gamers to hate anything not Nintendo so yah what you say about a lot of posters posts concerning their gaming habits is true for this forum and this forum alone. Only a small biased sample here.


That is true. But sometimes I wonder if what is posted here influences a lot of other gamers. Which is sad really. There is some really good third party stuff on the Wii U. :( It uposets me sometimes. But it is something you have to live with. :I



Nintendo Wii by generations...

1. Wii

2. Wii U

3. Wii O U

Predictions made by gamers concerning the current Nintendo line up of games.

Pikmen 3= Little Bump to nothing. (Got Little Bump)

Wind Waker HD= Won't sell anything (The explosion happened here and at one time 4 Wii U games was in the Amazon top 100)

Super Mario 3D World= Won't help at all looks cheap. (Currently the most sought after Wii U game and continuing the Wii U increase.)

xenogears1234 on 29 November 2013
Gamegears said:
chocoloco said:
Gamegears said:
chocoloco said:

Damn, so looking at Cod: Ghosts and Ass Creed: Black flag not even charting the top 80 on Wii U. Seems like there is a lot of reasoning behind third parties not supporting the platform, the numbers.

I am thinking the Bone will have really low numbers for week 2 in N. America as I have gone to several cities and not found a bone in stock anywhere. I plan to keep this up for every visit to a store that sells consoles out of curiosity until they seem to be consistantly in stock.

Naturally. Think about this how many people around here said they were going to get a Wii U for third party games?? (That does not mean that third party games get ignored really some people do buy them for the Wii U. Myself included. I have 7 games.. well 9 if you include dload only and 6 of them are third party games)  And I believe both AC4 and COD was in the top 50 for Wii U at one point. So they show up. They just don't stay there for long. 

In my long experience on these forums and GAF, the buying patterns of forum goers do not reflect the public as a whole at all. Forum goers tend to be gaming enthusiasts that are not remotely like the average gamer. It is tradition for vgc Nintendo gamers to hate anything not Nintendo so yah what you say about a lot of posters posts concerning their gaming habits is true for this forum and this forum alone. Only a small biased sample here.


That is true. But sometimes I wonder if what is posted here influences a lot of other gamers. Which is sad really. There is some really good third party stuff on the Wii U. :( It uposets me sometimes. But it is something you have to live with. :I


They got no one to blame but themselves marketing is as important to the success/longevity of a product as the quality of the product itself, and in some cases even more so.