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Seece said:
yvanjean said:
Success for Nintendo with the WiiU is making a profit and keeping shareholders happy. I'm not comparing them to the competitions. This next-gen is Sony's to lose, Nintendo will simply be a byproduct doing their own thing like always.

It's not as easy this time around tho. If WiiU continues to sell as much as it is (in the middle of the year) it'll be completely removed from store shelves world over. Why have WiiU hardware and software take up a shelf when you could have PS4/XB1 games there?

Nintendo claims that the price had nothing to do with the poor WiiU sales but coinsidently after the price cut sales double. Q1 2013 there was really no reason to have a price cut, WiiU would of sold at a loss and there was simply not enough software to push hardware sales. I think at $299 is still too expensive for what the WiiU has to offer to customer that aren't big fan of Nintendo. Casual friendly price is $250. I'm actually picking up a WiiU for my nephew tomorrow  for $250, hopefully more retaillers drop the price down to $250 during the holiday season.

Remember that during 2013 at the store WiiU competition on the shelf was the much cheaper Ps3 and Xbox360. As the focus in retail moves away from PS3 and XBox 360 to PS4 and Xbone, the WiiU will move from being the most expensive hardware to the cheaper alternative. 



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benji232 said:
Seece said:
benji232 said:
Seece said:
yvanjean said:
Success for Nintendo with the WiiU is making a profit and keeping shareholders happy. I'm not comparing them to the competitions. This next-gen is Sony's to lose, Nintendo will simply be a byproduct doing their own thing like always.

It's not as easy this time around tho. If WiiU continues to sell as much as it is (in the middle of the year) it'll be completely removed from store shelves world over. Why have WiiU hardware and software take up a shelf when you could have PS4/XB1 games there?

Come on... You really think Nintendo would let one of their 2 major products get taken off shelves? This is ridiculous. It's called: buying retail shelf space. And if you think Nintendo won't do so, then I don't know what to tell you.

That's a fantastic way to lose money. Are they doing it right now?? Several stores in the UK have taken it off shelves.

A few supermarkets in a single country taking them off store shelves is not exactly what I call *completely removed from store shelves world over*. I will return it to you, so you think that Nintendo will let 1 of their 2 major products get completely taken off store shelves without doing anything? You are kidding yourself if you believe that. If it gets to the point where every single stores are taking them off their shelves, then yea, Nintendo will most definetly buy store shelf. If you believe otherwise, then I have no clue what to tell you. 

Did I say that had happened yet? no I didn't, I said it will be on the cards if WiiU sales continue to do as poorly as they are.

I think Nintendo don't have much say in the matter, if consumers don't want their product there is no point on wasting money putting on shelves to collect dust. Have you done the calculations on how much it would cost Nintendo? Or do you think they're willing to spend any amount? I mean you realise that retail stores in the world that stock video game system run into the millions right?



 

Seece said:

It's not as easy this time around tho. If WiiU continues to sell as much as it is (in the middle of the year) it'll be completely removed from store shelves world over. Why have WiiU hardware and software take up a shelf when you could have PS4/XB1 games there?

yvanjean said:

Going forward this part of the WiiU business plan will become even more profitable as more and more console owner buy their game on the Eshop, cutting out most of the retail, delivery, packaging costs.

There is very little costs involve for Nintendo to bring a game from their backlog to the Virtual console and any sales are almost entirely profit this is one of Nintendo WiiU's cash cow. I think in the future you might actually Wii game showing on the Virtual Console.

They don't need shelf space, silly.



Seece said:
benji232 said:
Seece said:
benji232 said:
Seece said:
yvanjean said:
Success for Nintendo with the WiiU is making a profit and keeping shareholders happy. I'm not comparing them to the competitions. This next-gen is Sony's to lose, Nintendo will simply be a byproduct doing their own thing like always.

It's not as easy this time around tho. If WiiU continues to sell as much as it is (in the middle of the year) it'll be completely removed from store shelves world over. Why have WiiU hardware and software take up a shelf when you could have PS4/XB1 games there?

Come on... You really think Nintendo would let one of their 2 major products get taken off shelves? This is ridiculous. It's called: buying retail shelf space. And if you think Nintendo won't do so, then I don't know what to tell you.

That's a fantastic way to lose money. Are they doing it right now?? Several stores in the UK have taken it off shelves.

A few supermarkets in a single country taking them off store shelves is not exactly what I call *completely removed from store shelves world over*. I will return it to you, so you think that Nintendo will let 1 of their 2 major products get completely taken off store shelves without doing anything? You are kidding yourself if you believe that. If it gets to the point where every single stores are taking them off their shelves, then yea, Nintendo will most definetly buy store shelf. If you believe otherwise, then I have no clue what to tell you. 

Did I say that had happened yet? no I didn't, I said it will be on the cards if WiiU sales continue to do as poorly as they are.

I think Nintendo don't have much say in the matter, if consumers don't want their product there is no point on wasting money putting on shelves to collect dust. Have you done the calculations on how much it would cost Nintendo? Or do you think they're willing to spend any amount? I mean you realise that retail stores in the world that stock video game system run into the millions right?

I was saying that basing off the assumption that it does happen where it gets taken completely off store shelves. And yes, Nintendo won't have a choice. They would probably buy store shelves from most of the major retailers like gamestop, walmart, toys r us, games, etc. Then again, it probably won't get to that point since even the vita is still found in most retailers and the gamecube did not have that problem if I recall correctly.

Basically, my point is, it's not a matter of if it would lose them a lot of money doing so but moreso that they would not have a choice to do so if it came down to that situation.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

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ahhaha, god comparasion



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Kresnik said:
Seece said:

It's not as easy this time around tho. If WiiU continues to sell as much as it is (in the middle of the year) it'll be completely removed from store shelves world over. Why have WiiU hardware and software take up a shelf when you could have PS4/XB1 games there?

yvanjean said:

Going forward this part of the WiiU business plan will become even more profitable as more and more console owner buy their game on the Eshop, cutting out most of the retail, delivery, packaging costs.

There is very little costs involve for Nintendo to bring a game from their backlog to the Virtual console and any sales are almost entirely profit this is one of Nintendo WiiU's cash cow. I think in the future you might actually Wii game showing on the Virtual Console.

They don't need shelf space, silly.

they need to sell WiiU consoles :P



benji232 said:
Seece said:
benji232 said:

A few supermarkets in a single country taking them off store shelves is not exactly what I call *completely removed from store shelves world over*. I will return it to you, so you think that Nintendo will let 1 of their 2 major products get completely taken off store shelves without doing anything? You are kidding yourself if you believe that. If it gets to the point where every single stores are taking them off their shelves, then yea, Nintendo will most definetly buy store shelf. If you believe otherwise, then I have no clue what to tell you. 

Did I say that had happened yet? no I didn't, I said it will be on the cards if WiiU sales continue to do as poorly as they are.

I think Nintendo don't have much say in the matter, if consumers don't want their product there is no point on wasting money putting on shelves to collect dust. Have you done the calculations on how much it would cost Nintendo? Or do you think they're willing to spend any amount? I mean you realise that retail stores in the world that stock video game system run into the millions right?

I was saying that basing off the assumption that it does happen where it gets taken completely off store shelves. And yes, Nintendo won't have a choice. They would probably buy store shelves from most of the major retailers like gamestop, walmart, toys r us, games, etc. Then again, it probably won't get to that point since even the vita is still found in most retailers and the gamecube did not have that problem if I recall correctly.

Basically, my point is, it's not a matter of if it would lose them a lot of money doing so but moreso that they would not have a choice to do so if it came down to that situation.

Vita will have the same problem in due time. Gamecube didn't do as bad as either of those systems I don't think? I just don't see Nintendo buying shelf space for what would amount to less than 10k or under a month sold in the US (the point at which they'd be taken off shelves, that and they wouldn't be able to buy much shelf space per store).

Nintendo would be buying shelf space just because. If it gets taken off the shelves in the first place it means consumers really don't want it, so yeah it would be a total waste of Nintendo's money. I also think it would be costly.



 

Seece said:
benji232 said:
Seece said:
benji232 said:

A few supermarkets in a single country taking them off store shelves is not exactly what I call *completely removed from store shelves world over*. I will return it to you, so you think that Nintendo will let 1 of their 2 major products get completely taken off store shelves without doing anything? You are kidding yourself if you believe that. If it gets to the point where every single stores are taking them off their shelves, then yea, Nintendo will most definetly buy store shelf. If you believe otherwise, then I have no clue what to tell you. 

Did I say that had happened yet? no I didn't, I said it will be on the cards if WiiU sales continue to do as poorly as they are.

I think Nintendo don't have much say in the matter, if consumers don't want their product there is no point on wasting money putting on shelves to collect dust. Have you done the calculations on how much it would cost Nintendo? Or do you think they're willing to spend any amount? I mean you realise that retail stores in the world that stock video game system run into the millions right?

I was saying that basing off the assumption that it does happen where it gets taken completely off store shelves. And yes, Nintendo won't have a choice. They would probably buy store shelves from most of the major retailers like gamestop, walmart, toys r us, games, etc. Then again, it probably won't get to that point since even the vita is still found in most retailers and the gamecube did not have that problem if I recall correctly.

Basically, my point is, it's not a matter of if it would lose them a lot of money doing so but moreso that they would not have a choice to do so if it came down to that situation.

Vita will have the same problem in due time. Gamecube didn't do as bad as either of those systems I don't think? I just don't see Nintendo buying shelf space for what would amount to less than 10k or under a month sold in the US (the point at which they'd be taken off shelves, that and they wouldn't be able to buy much shelf space per store).

Nintendo would be buying shelf space just because. If it gets taken off the shelves in the first place it means consumers really don't want it, so yeah it would be a total waste of Nintendo's money. I also think it would be costly.

And it is probably never going to reach that point. even the wii is selling much more then that every month. Besides, currently, NA is wiiU's strongest market. The part where it is at risk is Europe, which is where i'd see them buy some shelf space. They wouldn't want to be forced to discontinue a system that is merely 1-2years old (at that time). 

Then again, I have a very hard time seeing that happen with all of their key franchises launching in 2014. I guess we'll have to wait and see.



Predictions for LT console sales:

PS4: 120M

XB1: 70M

WiiU: 14M

3DS: 60M

Vita: 13M

So they can have a low installbase but it needs to sell high sw numbers? The problem is, nobody is buying games.



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pezus said:
"The most important aspect is that Nintendo makes their own games, instead of getting a royalties like Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo take in the full revenues after paying of retail cost."

I'm not sure I understand this part

the crushing majority of software sold on ps and xbox are from third parties, meaning sony and ms only get royalties.

a good 1/3 of software sold on nintendo platforms is first party, meaning nintendo gets full profit of those + royalties from third party titles.