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Zero999 on 28 November 2013
DerNebel said:
Zero999 said:
DerNebel said:

Yeah we have one week, that is 2.5 times bigger than the Wii Us launch in that territory and actually more than the Wii U sold there in its first month, that alone should tell you a thing or two about what people think is a better deal.

Also the bolded paragraph makes no sense, how is the Wii U in any way the absolute better option? Sure for 300 bucks you get a Wii U with 2 games, but for 400 you get a PS4 that is multiple times stronger than the Wii U, which has free to play games like Planteside 2 and, like Scisca said you don't buy a console for the next couple months you buy it for the next couple years and in the next couple years PS4 owners can look forward to a ton of first and third party games that will never see the light of day on the Wii U, meanwhile on Wii U you will have great Nintendo games, sure but what if you don't care for them very much, what do you have left then? Nothing but a fragment of the third party support the PS4/X1 will get.

So I would go as far as to say that if you don't care much for Nintendo games, then the Wii U is without a doubt the absolute worst option of a next gen system out of the 3, and even if you care for them then I'd still recommend anyone to really think if they want to exchange the hundreds of third/first party games that won't come to the system for the at best 25-30 worthwhile games Nintendo will be able to produce for that thing.

bolded: it's cheaper, has more and better games. do i have to draw it for you?

Don't have a good argument? Just act arrogant, typical for you.

Read again what I wrote and then try too refute it. Just a little hint the Wii U is 25% cheaper than the PS4 while probably being around 4 times weaker, do you see what's wrong with that? Also sure, the Wii U has more games at the moment, but once again how long until this changes, maybe a year? If you seriously believe that the Wii U will for the rest of its life have more games than the PS4 (better is subjective anyway) then you are just delusional, like I said the Wii U is good for Nintendo games but if you don't like those then you have close to no reason at all to buy one.

bolded: nope.

and wich part of "it's cheaper, has more and better games" isn't a good argument?



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EricFabian on 28 November 2013
Scisca said:

Nah. Vita is profitable, especially in Japan, where only 3DS sales better. Companies making Vita games get outstanding profits there, far exceeding their expectations. There is no way it's gonna be discontinued, especially now when the West gets remote play.

Sources please



DerNebel on 28 November 2013
Scisca said:
EricFabian said:
ryuzaki57 said:
It begins.

But I agree, they will be forced to discontinue it if the holiday sales are poor


Vita too


Nah. Vita is profitable, especially in Japan, where only 3DS sales better. Companies making Vita games get outstanding profits there, far exceeding their expectations. There is no way it's gonna be discontinued, especially now when the West gets remote play.

Disagree. I don't think Sony will discontinue the Vita but I doubt that it makes them alot of money if any at all. We'll see what remote play can do, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if Sony at least dropped all western support for that thing.



Zero999 on 28 November 2013
Scisca said:
Zero999 said:
Scisca said:
Zero999 said:

oh, yeah, we have numbers for one whole week (launch week) in one territory. wii u is 300 dollars + 2 games with amazing games that you can't get anywhere else. ps4 is 400 dollars with most of it's library being available somewhere else.

someone's personal opinion over exclusives can make the ps4 the better option. but regardless of opinion, it is absolute that wii u is the better option right now and will keep that way for many people.

I won't even comment on your "incredible arguments" to say wii u is last gen because it would get me banned.


Yeah, and during the first day in one territory PS4 sold over 25% of what Wii U has sold in over a year WW. Tomorrow it's gonna be over 50% of Wii U sales. THAT is absolute, you just give your opinion and have nothing to back it up by. Wii U is too expensive, nobody (except for fanboys) sees it as the better option. It's not worth what it offers, the games are good, but don't justify a $300 price tag. You really have to take your Nintendo glasses off, cause you are just making fun of yourself. I am still waiting for your comment on Super Mario 3D World, after you were giving me hell when I said it won't be the massive system seller and that Christmas will give Wii U a bigger boost than this game. Well it's out in Japan, 100k copies sold, no boost in hardware. Guess I was right after all? Just like I am when it comes to Wii U price and to it being too last gen to validate this price.

All the "incredible arguments" are cold hard fact and sad truth for people like you, who can't see the world outside of Nintendo.

A) bolded: how does that math works?

B) bolded2: no, you're as wrong as before if you continue to insist mario 3d world isn't a big system seller. and again, you back your "armazing arguments" with 1 whole week for one territory. I kinda see a patern.


A) My dear friend, math works like this:

Wii U is at 3.98 mil WW so far, let's say it's at 4 (we'll be kind, it's good Nintendo after all)

PS4 has sold over 1 mil day 1 in NA, let's sat it's at 1 (we won't be kind, it's bad Sony after all)

1/4 => 25%

Today is the EU launch, we already know the preorders alone won't be met, so if Sony ships 1 mil (which it most probably will), PS4 will be at 2 mil WW.

2/4 => 50%

Quite simple!

B) I guess you should define a "big system seller". Because it may be one, depending on the definition. After all, it gave the Wii U a MASSIVE boost of 5k in a single week in Japan!! And it sold 100k copies. Considering God Eater 2 already sold 500k and gave a +/- 60k boost to Vita in a week in the same Japan, it must be a megaton and a total gamechanger

My "amazing arguments" were about why Wii U is too last gen, it has nothing to do with backing it by sales in NA, you must be really confused. Poor thing

Even on the remote possibility of ps4 reaching 2M worldwide at the week ending november 30, wii u would have to sell 0 units since nov. 16 for those 2M = 50%. got that or need more explanation?

previous 3d marios didn't give huge boosts in japan either and that didn't stop them from giving big boosts elsewhere.

your "arguments" consist of saying wii u's graphics are last gen and it's online is bad (both wrong).



Zero999 on 28 November 2013
tbone51 said:
oniyide said:
You kinda have to ignore Zero on this, not even the other Nintendo fans are gonna back his insane claims and predictions


I'll back his predictions up *looks at his predictions..... "Only 1mil per week to hit 10mil Sales Lifetime in the next 7 weeks?" *runs and hides

you realize my old prediction doesn't have to be met to shut people's mouths, do you?



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Zero999 on 28 November 2013
Mummelmann said:

Zero999; weren't you the one saying the Wii U would sell 2 million in November alone, end up with 3 million for December and 10.2 million before January, outsell the One and PS4 combined (both of them reaching about 2 million by year's end)?

That makes it kinda hard to take your reasoning around any subject seriously. And your talk of "absolute value" is nonsense and purely subjective, especially considering that the PS4 and One have had about a week and a few days to get any games, let's have this discussion again in November 2014, that's when the difference will be evident. People are also back and forth on which Mario is a system seller. 5k bump in Japan in November? Ouch. And it's not as if 2D Mario kept the Wii U from sinking like a stone from January and out.

I suppose you could just go the obvious vgchartz route though; "undertracked"!

Do you understand that the Wii U might end up selling about 3 million units for the entire calendar year?

bolded: I can't understand something that exists only on alternate realities.



Scisca on 28 November 2013
Zero999 said:

Even on the remote possibility of ps4 reaching 2M worldwide at the week ending november 30, wii u would have to sell 0 units since nov. 16 for those 2M = 50%. got that or need more explanation?

previous 3d marios didn't give huge boosts in japan either and that didn't stop them from giving big boosts elsewhere.

your "arguments" consist of saying wii u's graphics are last gen and it's online is bad (both wrong).


My God, you are so desperate you're trying to stick to hundredths of a percent? Hahaha. Remote possibility? The only question is how much they can ship, they have officially said they won't meet the preorders taken. And you are saying this, as if I didn't tweak the numbers in Nintendo's favour already. But if you want it that way - ok. Wii U is at 3.98 mil, PS4 at 1.08 mil. Already over 25%. If Sony ships the same number of consoles to EU as they did to NA, there is no way Wii U sells enough till the end of the month to be over 50%. Got that or need more explanation?

Previous 3D Marios did more. Guess we have to wait a bit for other teritories (can't wait for Europe ), but get yourself ready to creating more excuses. Or you could, you know, say I'm right and you're wrong. Would save you the trouble :P

It's not enough to say an argument is wrong. Please prove me wrong.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

oniyide on 28 November 2013
tbone51 said:
oniyide said:
You kinda have to ignore Zero on this, not even the other Nintendo fans are gonna back his insane claims and predictions


I'll back his predictions up *looks at his predictions..... "Only 1mil per week to hit 10mil Sales Lifetime in the next 7 weeks?" *runs and hides


LOL you're alright



Scisca on 28 November 2013
EricFabian said:
Scisca said:

Nah. Vita is profitable, especially in Japan, where only 3DS sales better. Companies making Vita games get outstanding profits there, far exceeding their expectations. There is no way it's gonna be discontinued, especially now when the West gets remote play.

Sources please


Just today we got the news that God Eater 2 developer is so happy with the results of their game (already over 0.5 mil), that they are organising a special lunch for the crew to celebrate. I'm gonna have to ask for info about other Japanese devs who previously had their stocks skyrocketing after the release of Vita games in the Vita thread, but trust me - it is happening. We have been celebrating that in the Vita thread



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

DerNebel on 28 November 2013
Zero999 said:
DerNebel said:

Don't have a good argument? Just act arrogant, typical for you.

Read again what I wrote and then try too refute it. Just a little hint the Wii U is 25% cheaper than the PS4 while probably being around 4 times weaker, do you see what's wrong with that? Also sure, the Wii U has more games at the moment, but once again how long until this changes, maybe a year? If you seriously believe that the Wii U will for the rest of its life have more games than the PS4 (better is subjective anyway) then you are just delusional, like I said the Wii U is good for Nintendo games but if you don't like those then you have close to no reason at all to buy one.

bolded: nope.

and wich part of "it's cheaper, has more and better games" isn't a good argument?

Wow, "nope", great argument, got any sources to back that up? Cause all I can find on the net basically supports my point (am on my phone so posting a link is a pain, maybe someone else will), but don't worry, if you can't find a source I will just file this under "bullshit Zero pulls out of his ass to make the Wii U look better".

Also, read what I said and don't come back until you have a good argument, all you've said in your last post has already been adressed by me in my last post.